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    BPnet Senior Member Archimedes's Avatar
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    Decisions: Single or Doube Gene? (0.1)

    So here's my current conundrum.

    I'm looking at two prospective female hatchlings. One is a Pinstripe I found for 200, the other a Bumblebee for 275.

    The Pin I've seen in person-- she's at the nearby PetSmart, and aside from some stuck shed, she's a beautiful little girl, although her markings are fairly average for a pin, well priced, and according to the Herp Specialist, their best eater at 2 fuzzies per meal since she came in.

    The Bee I found on Craigslist, and the seller hasn't given me a clear photo of her since we've been in correspondence. She's 80g, and looks to have some really cool patterning on her head, but the pics are pretty fuzzy so I'm hesitant at best. He has offered to drop the price to 250; sounds like he's having trouble getting her out. His emails aren't terribly professional either, so if the pics didn't make me wary, that would.

    So, a single-gene girl who has no history, but looks healthy and is priced fairly for market value, OR a double-gene whose history is sketchy at best and is priced a bit below what I've seen for good-quality bees?

    I'm also considering a few other hatchlings whose history is much more solid, since both sellers I'm considering are on here/personal friends of mine. So it really isn't a rush decision. I'm just musing over possibilities.)

    For reference, I want to work with making Pewter combos, and Axanthics as a recessive project farther down the line (at this rate quite a bit farther, so much so that it's not a priority right now unless I get crazy-lucky with an Axanthic deal.)

    **Note-- I do want to build from the bottom with this project, but a Pewter male is in the works for once I get a female closer to breeding size. The Pin could produce Pewter Pins if I'm lucky, which I LOVE, but the Bee girl might be a good start if I got a Cinny male instead and literally started from the bottom.
    Last edited by Archimedes; 10-06-2013 at 12:01 PM. Reason: this is all for the sake of brainstorming, heh.
    1.1 Ball Pythons
    a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
    b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020

    3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)

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    1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins),
    2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)

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    I would pass on both and work with breeders personally. If I have to ask for another's opinion then it didn't wow me and I move on

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    Hamburg is coming up on the 19th I would pass on both and head there. if it's a pin you want you will find one there for cheaper then 200 and with no stuck shed. and there will probably be bees there in that price range from respectable breeders.

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    Yeah, the more I think about it I know I should just wait on the clutches I'm looking at to hatch/shed off. I just need my next fix!!! Haha.
    1.1 Ball Pythons
    a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
    b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020

    3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)

    Fish:
    1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins),
    2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)

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    Re: Decisions: Single or Doube Gene? (0.1)

    Quote Originally Posted by dillan2020 View Post
    Hamburg is coming up on the 19th I would pass on both and head there. if it's a pin you want you will find one there for cheaper then 200 and with no stuck shed. and there will probably be bees there in that price range from respectable breeders.
    I'll be there!! I'm looking for a female
    can't wait

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    What are Hamburg's hours? I work mornings on Saturdays :/
    1.1 Ball Pythons
    a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
    b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020

    3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)

    Fish:
    1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins),
    2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)

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    Re: Decisions: Single or Doube Gene? (0.1)

    I'd pass on both of those females personally.

    Pet store animals don't appeal to me at all because of the husbandry issues, and the fact that they're ridiculously overpriced.

    The guy on CL just sounds shady, especially if he won't send you a decent picture...
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    i agree, take your money and go directly to a breeder or a reptile show.

    you will get something better, or you will get the same but in perfect health and shape and lower price.

    the big chains buy a morph for between 50-80 dollars, then sell it for 200. the high profit margin would be fine if they would take excellent care of the animals and pay their employees well and would provide good information and support to customers. But they generally dont.

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    In an ideal situation (quality animals) 2 genes is always better then one

    The more gene you can afford even when it comes to females is better.
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