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    clutch has shed

    so my first clutch ever shed i was wondering what evryone feeds for there firts meal...i was thinking rat fuzzy i think??? i would like to start on rats any sugestions..


    the clutch was spider to albino and the outcome was

    5.2 spider het albino
    0.1 het albino

    it was a little male heavy but i have a female snow to pair with!!!!!
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    Yeah, start feeding rats so they won't be eating mice. You want these snakes to be swole. Big muscle baby, big muscle

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    what size rats for a hatchling?
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    Re: clutch has shed

    Quote Originally Posted by willieshotg3 View Post
    what size rats for a hatchling?
    Depends on the size of the hatchling and how cooperative they are going to be...


    but usually "pups"...
    Last edited by sho220; 09-05-2013 at 11:11 AM.
    Lucifer Sam, Siam cat...
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    Always by your side...
    That cat's something I can't explain...

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    Mice, hopper mice. I don't know why people are so against feeding mice. They're just as nutritious and in my experience the hatchling snakes take them a LOT easier then rats. I feed all of my hatchlings mice for their first year and rarely have any trouble switching to small rats when they get big enough.

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    Re: clutch has shed

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Mice, hopper mice. I don't know why people are so against feeding mice.
    My reasons...

    #1 - They stink
    #2 - After a few months mice are too small and multiple prey items are required at each feeding

    I usually try rat pups first, but have no problem offering hopper mice to get them going. I usually only do that for a month or so to get their feeding response going...after that it's back to rat pups. If they don't take the rat pups, it's back to hopper mice for a few meals and back to rat pups again. They usually give in...eventually...

    And I agree about the nutrition content...the difference is negligible imo...although the internet says otherwise... I think rats are just more convenient for most people...
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    I go rat fuzzies/pups depending on size of hatchling.
    Family:
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    1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal

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    Re: clutch has shed

    Quote Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    My reasons...

    #1 - They stink
    #2 - After a few months mice are too small and multiple prey items are required at each feeding

    I usually try rat pups first, but have no problem offering hopper mice to get them going. I usually only do that for a month or so to get their feeding response going...after that it's back to rat pups. If they don't take the rat pups, it's back to hopper mice for a few meals and back to rat pups again. They usually give in...eventually...

    And I agree about the nutrition content...the difference is negligible imo...although the internet says otherwise... I think rats are just more convenient for most people...
    Personally since cutting back on my rats they're much too valuable to feed off as pups, I don't feed any rat until it's at least weaned. I know breeders who feed mice for the entire life of the snake, even full grown adults.

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    well all 8 refused rat pups so i will try mice next feeding...how long should i wait a full week or 3 days ???????
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    A day or two should be fine, use hopper mice and leave them in overnight if you have to.

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