Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 772

2 members and 770 guests
Most users ever online was 9,191, 03-09-2025 at 12:17 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,880
Threads: 249,074
Posts: 2,571,997
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, pickledratinajar
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 15
  1. #1
    Registered User sasT's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-01-2011
    Posts
    165
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts

    we got a MYSTERY clutch on our hands!!

    Hello everyone,
    here is the deal - i bred my supposedly "Super Butter" female (completely white snake with blue eyes) with ONLY my Lesser Enchi male
    here is a picture of them breeding:


    anyway the results were as follows - 3 white BELS (one of the had defected eyes - they seems to be smaller than normal) and 2 "butters" .. one of the butters looks like a normal butter to me, however the second one looks COMPLETELY different
    normal butter:

    "supposedly" butter:


    so what on earth is going on here :S
    thank you for your help

  2. #2
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    06-06-2011
    Location
    Afton, New York
    Posts
    2,036
    Thanks
    204
    Thanked 352 Times in 312 Posts
    Images: 1
    I'd almost hazard a guess and say your super butter BEL is actually a Mojave x Butter/Lesser BEL and the other "butter" is really a Mojave.


    Just my $.02 since the second one is so dark.
    Country Born Exotics

    Soon to be specializing in: Desert Ghost, Clown, Banana, Hypo, Pied, and Spotnose Combos

  3. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to kevinb For This Useful Post:

    alykoz (08-24-2013),dr del (08-24-2013),minguss (08-24-2013),Rockstars (08-25-2013),Wapadi (08-24-2013)

  4. #3
    BPnet Lifer rlditmars's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-05-2012
    Posts
    2,963
    Thanks
    1,751
    Thanked 2,884 Times in 1,505 Posts

    Re: we got a MYSTERY clutch on our hands!!

    Congrats on the clutch. Both of them looked to be Mojave to me. I would agree your BEL is not a Super Butter/Lesser but a Mojave X Butter/Lesser. The head isn't dark enough for Super Mojo. You may want to contact the breeder you acquired her from and see what they have on record. Cool babies just the same and at least you hit three BELs. Now the problem is what are the BELs? If you girl is Mojo Lesser?Butter then they could be either Super Butter/Lesser or Mojo X Butter/Lesser.

  5. #4
    BPnet Veteran joebad976's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-27-2011
    Location
    Daytona Beach
    Posts
    1,796
    Thanks
    372
    Thanked 636 Times in 564 Posts
    Plus how will you know if any of the bels also carry the enchi gene without breeding them out.

  6. #5
    Avian Life Neal's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-23-2008
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    7,088
    Thanks
    603
    Thanked 2,145 Times in 1,559 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8
    Images: 1
    I can't tell you the whole clutch thing, but I will say congrats on the babies.
    -Birds-

    0.1 - Poicephalus senegalus - Stella (Senegal Parrot)
    0.1- Poicephalus rufiventris - Alexa (Red-bellied Parrot)



  7. #6
    BPnet Veteran satomi325's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-15-2011
    Location
    In a galaxy far,far away.
    Posts
    6,423
    Thanks
    2,429
    Thanked 3,969 Times in 2,446 Posts
    Images: 5

    Re: we got a MYSTERY clutch on our hands!!

    Its a Mojave. (The one you call a butter looks butter/lesser)

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

  8. #7
    BPnet Lifer snakesRkewl's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-14-2009
    Location
    Milwaukie, Oregon
    Posts
    7,665
    Thanks
    2,687
    Thanked 3,036 Times in 2,147 Posts
    Images: 2
    The super is a mojave butter/lesser, the only explanation possible unless there was a chance at retaining sperm from a previous pairing with a mojo
    Jerry Robertson

  9. #8
    Apprentice SPAM Janitor MarkS's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-22-2005
    Location
    St Paul, MN
    Posts
    6,209
    Thanks
    1,535
    Thanked 2,678 Times in 1,596 Posts
    Blog Entries
    9
    Images: 3
    That second one does look like a mojave, it's possible that it could be a particularily dark butter, but from the picture it looks like a mojave to me which would make your white snake a butter x mojave BEL. It looks like you missed on the enchi gene unless one of the BELs you produced is carrying it.

  10. #9
    Registered User sasT's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-01-2011
    Posts
    165
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts
    could it be possible that it's not a mojave but a phantom? I already contacted the breeder i bought her from to see if he can explain this but he hasn't answered yet

  11. #10
    Apprentice SPAM Janitor MarkS's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-22-2005
    Location
    St Paul, MN
    Posts
    6,209
    Thanks
    1,535
    Thanked 2,678 Times in 1,596 Posts
    Blog Entries
    9
    Images: 3
    I think if it were a phantom, your BEL would have a lot more pattern to it.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1