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    ID & Price Check Please!

    OK, this is a boa that's on Cl & I covet it greatly. Its listed as an Argentine hypo-salmon. I know nothing about boa morps. What should I expect to pay for an adult like this one?
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    Re: ID & Price Check Please!

    its a hypo imo as for argentine i'm not seeing it but you'll have to wait on evenstar or daybreaker to give their thoughts. They would have a better idea than me. I wasnt aware that aregentines had any other morphs besides motley or t+ so.... yeah wait on one of those other 2 for a better idea.
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    Hypo isn't a morph found in pure Argentines, so at most this is some sort of cross (I've seen the Hypo Colombian x Argentine boas called "Salmontines" by some). I can see some argie influence in the face structure but since I've never seen a hypo Argentine/Colombian cross adult I can't say for a price or whatnot. I'm into purities so I wouldn't pay much for this snake personally, so I say it's worth whatever you want to pay for it. What are they asking?
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    4.15 Ball Pythons
    1.1 Angolan Pythons
    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
    0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
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    Male or female?

    100% hypo that's for sure. Salmon is a line bred form of hypo. It's hard to say whether it is or not because many people use "salmon" as the word hypo. It's is most definitely a nice looking hypo boa though, very deep reds and oranges. And it appears to have some good size. If it's female I would pay $250. Male I would pay $150. I haven't kept up on prices lately though. I do know hatchlings go for $100 ish.

    Now as far as it being an argentine, it wouldn't be pure. It could be a cross, but I don't see that whatsoever
    Last edited by SnowShredder; 08-23-2013 at 01:06 AM.
    Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
    Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla

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    Re: ID & Price Check Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    Hypo isn't a morph found in pure Argentines, so at most this is some sort of cross (I've seen the Hypo Colombian x Argentine boas called "Salmontines" by some). I can see some argie influence in the face structure but since I've never seen a hypo Argentine/Colombian cross adult I can't say for a price or whatnot. I'm into purities so I wouldn't pay much for this snake personally, so I say it's worth whatever you want to pay for it. What are they asking?
    They don't say. They want to trade it for "hog elimination devices". I just want to know if its out of my budget lol
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    1.0 Hypo Clown; 1.0 Enchi Freeway; 0.1 Ivory pos. pastel, super pastel, butter (Penelope); 0.1 Hypo Chocolate GHI Pastel pos Vanilla (Smokey); 0.1 YB pied; 0.1 enchi YB/asphalt; 0.1 VPI Axanthic (Special Cookies); 0.1 Albino pos YB; 0.1 Hypo Clown; 0.1 Hypo Spinner
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    Re: ID & Price Check Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowShredder View Post
    Male or female?

    100% hypo that's for sure. Salmon is a line bred form of hypo. It's hard to say whether it is or not because many people use "salmon" as the word hypo. It's is most definitely a nice looking hypo boa though, very deep reds and oranges. And it appears to have some good size. If it's female I would pay $250. Male I would pay $150. I haven't kept up on prices lately though. I do know hatchlings go for $100 ish.

    Now as far as it being an argentine, it wouldn't be pure. It could be a cross, but I don't see that whatsoever
    No clue on the gender either. But it would be a pet/display animal, so gender is a non-issue.
    Ball Pythons:
    1.0 Hypo Clown; 1.0 Enchi Freeway; 0.1 Ivory pos. pastel, super pastel, butter (Penelope); 0.1 Hypo Chocolate GHI Pastel pos Vanilla (Smokey); 0.1 YB pied; 0.1 enchi YB/asphalt; 0.1 VPI Axanthic (Special Cookies); 0.1 Albino pos YB; 0.1 Hypo Clown; 0.1 Hypo Spinner
    Colubrids:
    1.0 Coachwhip; 1.0 Lavender ph hypo hoggie; 0.1 het hypo ph lavender hoggie (Fingermuncher)

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    Re: ID & Price Check Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by smalltimeballz View Post
    They don't say. They want to trade it for "hog elimination devices". I just want to know if its out of my budget lol
    Hmmm, I'd shoot them an email then and see. Sorry I can't give a rough price range; I just don't see many adult argie crosses/Salmontines for sale.
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    4.15 Ball Pythons
    1.1 Angolan Pythons
    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
    0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
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    And just to throw it out there, here's a head comparison to my pure Argentine male and my Colombian jungle male (since I see some argie in the snake in question):



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    4.15 Ball Pythons
    1.1 Angolan Pythons
    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
    0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
    0.0.1 Corn


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    Re: ID & Price Check Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    And just to throw it out there, here's a head comparison to my pure Argentine male and my Colombian jungle male (since I see some argie in the snake in question):




    Thanks! I love comparison shots...it helps me the most. Are they the same age? Size?

    Side by side there is definitely noticeable differences
    Last edited by SnowShredder; 08-23-2013 at 01:37 AM.
    Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
    Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla

    Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua

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    Re: ID & Price Check Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowShredder View Post
    Thanks! I love comparison shots...it helps me the most. Are they the same age? Size?

    Side by side there is definitely noticeable differences
    Thanks! Revo the Argie is a August 2011 baby and about 4'

    Jericho the Colombian is a June 2010 baby and about 6 1/2'

    Though it depends on the individual, I see that (most) Argentines have thicker and shorter heads than (most) Colombians.
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    4.15 Ball Pythons
    1.1 Angolan Pythons
    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
    0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
    0.0.1 Corn


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