Getting a few Corns

[BallChick]

I've been thinking about getting a few Corns. I found a deal on a trio on a local forum I'm a member of. I'm not as versed with Corns as I am Ball Pythons. The trio is
1.0 Lava
0.1 Reverse Okeetee
0.1 Blood Red
What would I get breeding the male Lava to the two females? From what I understand, Lava and Blood Red are a type of Amel, but that's all I know. Help?

[Andrew21]

These are assuming that htere are no hidden hets:
Lava x Bloodred(diffused) = Normal het lava, bloodred
Lava x reverse okeetee = Normal het lava, amel (I *think* the offspring from this pairing may have a chance of having the dark borders that okeetees' do)

Bloodred is actually a pattern muttation that has an effect on the colors, but doesn't actually change them. Bloodred is not a type of amel, neither is lava. I understand thinking a lava is though, they look like they would be. Hope this helps!

[RoseRed]

The best pairing would be
1.0 Lava x O.1 Bloodred

The first generation will be all normals het lava, bloodred
Then breed the offspring to each other to possibly get bloodred lava.

Bloodred is NOT a type of amel (bloodred is aka diffused)

IMHO there are better combo's out there. If I were you, I would do more research on corn morphs/genetics before spending money on buying breeders. There's nothing like spending money on some corns just to realize later on you don't like the possible outcomes, too much work, or you get into other things........ Just my 2 cents though

[Dracoluna]

Though a nice group, the others are right. All you'll get are normals with hets. In corns, this is very common and unlike bps, there are many, many hidden hets out there because it seems like everything is het for something due to almost all morphs being recessive. Here is a good link to a genetic calculator to play on and see what you might like. It doesn't show pictures but you can always look them up once you know what you're after.

http://www.corncalc.com/

A reverse Okeetee is just a line bred amel made to have wide borders on the pattern. If you outcross, those borders will still be thicker than normal on the babies but won't be as strong as in the parent.

[BallChick]

Thanks for the info! That's what I was afraid of...Normals all Het for everything.
I do love the Lava and Bloodred though, so I might just get them to keep as pets. who knows.

Any ideas for a good pair to breed down the road? I'm pretty open, but I do love the bright reds/oranges. Also anything with an unusual pattern.

[RoseRed]

Any ideas for a good pair to breed down the road? I'm pretty open, but I do love the bright reds/oranges. Also anything with an unusual pattern.

I would do some research on these (just a small list to get you started )

Bloodred/Diffused
Amel
Fire (Amel + Diffused)
Sunkissed
Lava
Diffused Lava
Diffused Sunkissed
Teressa
Aztec
Stripe
Motely
Hypo
Pied Sided

If I were you I would make sure all of your males and females have as many of the same homozygous recessive traits as possible to avoid the "normal with tons of hets". (For example, I am trying to make sure most of my breeding stock at least is diffused, mostly because I want to work with Pied Sided and I just love the diffused).

Also, when it comes to diffused there are different levels in quality. If I were you, I would save up my money and spend it on a really nice example of a diffused corn (although this concept can go for all morphs, but I feel as if it is really important for diffused).

Best of luck

[Andrew21]

If you have the money, I'd get a tessera with some hets or without. If you don't want to spend that kind of bling, you might want something like a butter motley. Just something with more than 1 gene in it. Sunkissed are nice cause they aren't cheapies like amel is now. They're about $50-$60.

If you took the time to fully understand the genetics and get to know most if not all of the morphs and how they act with eachother, you could come up with like a 5-year plan. Like starting with just butter motley, then breeding it to a amel sunkissed. You'd only get amel het caramel, sunkissed, and motley. But then you breed the babies together and maybe you'll hit the odds and get a sunkissed butter motley!

Go with whatever colors and patterns you like. With the current corn snake market, you will really need to like what you are working with.