Frozen thawed injected with vitamins

[bradthebanker]

I have a 330 gram pied female and feed her f/t weaned rats and also have a ready to breed male high white pied and I'm wanting to get my female up to breeding size this coming breeding season and I'm scared that she won't be big enough this coming season so I was wondering if I can inject her f/t rodents with vitamins to make her grow faster to be at size to breed this year and not have to wait till 2014 breeding season.

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[Wes]

Even if she is at the size to breed that doesn't mean she will be mature enough.

[MorphMaster]

I'm not sure about the vitamins, but you could power feed. I don't like it personally because the female will lay smaller clutches and more slugs. I would personally just wait. She will come around when she comes around. Also beware of the 1000g hunger strike. Sometimes it happens, other times it doesn't. All mine did though

[Derrick]

I'm not sure about the vitamins, but you could power feed. I don't like it personally because the female will lay smaller clutches and more slugs. I would personally just wait. She will come around when she comes around. Also beware of the 1000g hunger strike. Sometimes it happens, other times it doesn't. All mine did though

My Special Female just decided the last 2 feeding days to go on a hunger strike. She is almost 900 grams. I hope it doesn't last too long.

[loonunit]

Is she a 2012 pied? If she's a 2012, she almost certainly won't be big enough this coming season. And honestly, you're not doing her any favors, trying to force her up to size before she's ready.

But if she is a 2012, sounds like she's a pretty good eater. Don't ruin that by injecting vitamins---you'll cause a health problem. Rodents are nutritionally-complete packages for snakes, who have different nutritional needs from mammals to begin with. So a multi-vitamin mix for humans wouldn't be balanced right.

And many vitamins are toxic when you overdo them. I can't stress that enough. In fact, I'm going to put it in the italic text.

I'm not a huge fan of power-feeding either, but it doesn't set off an alarm like the vitamin suggestion.

I do find my ball pythons grower slower than my friends', and I think that that's because we keep our house several degrees cooler. I think if you can keep the cool side up in the upper 70's, she'll eat more. And just offer food often, and offer second helpings.

[bradthebanker]

Im not power feeding I just feed every 5 days. I'm just wanting to produce some pieds and maybe some pastel het pied but I guess it will have to wait for her to be ready I don't want to jeopardize her health

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[satomi325]

Why rush into breeding? Breeding ball pythons takes time. A lot of time and patience. Especially if you're growing out your own girls from hatchling size. If you want instant gratification, purchase some breeder size or proven breeder girls.

I don't think vitamins will help growth....
If you do get your little girl up to size,it does not necessarily mean she'll breed.
She needs to be old enough to be sexually mature.

And I don't recommend power feeding. She will grow faster, yes. But it will also make her too fat for her body proportion and possibly obese.
Obese girls do not breed well and slug out.




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[TheSnakeGuy]

It's not something you should gamble with. You don't know how well the snake will metabolize the vitamins. It may do more harm than good. I considered injecting my rodents with high protein ferret food just for a boost, but it wasn't to make them grow faster. Just to keep weight on them if they should go on strike. Just be patient because almost nothing you can do will make her ready to breed before her time. Her weight/size isn't the only determining factor. I'm about to get my first breeder female. A Mystic Pastel born in NOV '12 and I don't plan on even trying to pair her until NEXT(2014) fall. Even if you get her to breed this year, there's a high chance you'll get no eggs, small eggs, or all slugs. Not to mention your snake becoming malnourished in the process. The cons just outweigh the pros. Patience.

[Rob]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patience

[loonunit]

My Special Female just decided the last 2 feeding days to go on a hunger strike. She is almost 900 grams. I hope it doesn't last too long.

I think she'll be fine for next season. Even if she refuses from now until July, she's already so big that it won't take more than a month or two of crazy late-summer eating to get up to breeding size.