Is it too late.....

[iBeLucKy]

I was thinking about buying a normal adult female to breed my spider to but i wanted to ask when the breeding season ends this year? See i was thinking i could flip a few spiders for $200 here in my home town to help me get a female i want. I could buy one from garrick for $200 and she is right at 1500g, if she gives me 6 eggs and 4 of them are spiders that's $800 in the bank for a nice enchi or lesser. Just wanted to get someones POV....do you think it's a good plan or bad plan?

[Wes]

I think you are getting a little ahead of your self.

[coldbloodaddict]

I was thinking about buying a normal adult female to breed my spider to but i wanted to ask when the breeding season ends this year? See i was thinking i could flip a few spiders for $200 here in my home town to help me get a female i want. I could buy one from garrick for $200 and she is right at 1500g, if she gives me 6 eggs and 4 of them are spiders that's $800 in the bank for a nice enchi or lesser. Just wanted to get someones POV....do you think it's a good plan or bad plan?

Just add a little more to the $200 and you could have a female Enchi or Lesser long before that breeding would yield any results...Also you're not getting $200 dollars for hatchling Spiders...

BTW $200 for a Normal female is way too much!

[iBeLucKy]

So it's a bad plan lol.....i mean i'm just trying to kick start myself a little. Any advise would be nice....my mystic female is only 3 months old so it will be awhile till i can do anything with her. My Spider HET hypo is about 7 months old and i would love to get a adult female to breed him with. Any advise would be much appreciated.....

[iBeLucKy]

I think you are getting a little ahead of your self.

Yeah i might be but i was just posting to get some advise from people that's been around the game a little longer then i have.....

[Meltdown Morphs]

You could just save that 200 , add on another 200 and just buy the morph you want this season.
What your counting on in your 'plan' is a bunch of 'Ifs'.
'If' your spider is even interested in breeding yet.
'If' the normal you buy actually breeds with the spider male, she might not have follicles even developed.
If you actually got a fertile clutch out of her.
If you even got 6 eggs

but what if you had horrible luck and ended up with a clutch of normals.
or maybe you did get spiders but they ended up being all male. That plan would be a bust .Your certainly not going to sell male spiders for $200, and not even females really .

I mean its starting to get kind of late in the season now, likely by the time you get eggs most of the 2013 babies will already have hatched.You could likely get a much better deal/selection waiting till then when everyone is trying to sell their babies.
I hadn't even mentioned a quarantine which should at minimum add a good 30 days before you even put this new snake into your established animals.

[iBeLucKy]

You could just save that 200 , add on another 200 and just buy the morph you want this season.
What your counting on in your 'plan' is a bunch of 'Ifs'.
'If' your spider is even interested in breeding yet.
'If' the normal you buy actually breeds with the spider male, she might not have follicles even developed.
If you actually got a fertile clutch out of her.
If you even got 6 eggs

but what if you had horrible luck and ended up with a clutch of normals.
or maybe you did get spiders but they ended up being all male. That plan would be a bust .Your certainly not going to sell male spiders for $200, and not even females really .

I mean its starting to get kind of late in the season now, likely by the time you get eggs most of the 2013 babies will already have hatched.You could likely get a much better deal/selection waiting till then as everyone is trying to sell their babies.
I hadn't even mentioned a quarantine which should at minimum add a good 30 days before you even put this new snake into your established animals.

Yeah i was reading some stuff online about buying adult females and how it isn't the best thing to do. I'll just wait and get a few babies this season and buy all my racks. I'm new to all this and i gotta find patience i guess.....

[Meltdown Morphs]

lol oh yea, ball pythons will certainly teach you some patience in all aspects of the word.

[Pythonfriend]

here is how i would do it with such limited funds:

save for nice looking 1-gene females, like female enchi or female pinstripe or whatever codominant/dominant you like.

take care that you have about 3 females for 1 male, not too many males. however, since you breed one male to between 2 and 4 females, and males are cheaper, the males are where you should invest in a good-looking multi-gene animal.

then, in 2 or 3 years, you can start a nice breeding operation. and it will not produce 50% normals and 50% spiders, you will get 2-gene and 3-gene hatchlings and single gene hatchlings and only few normals.

also watch out for morph issues:
http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php
when considering working with these genes and when in doubt, ask here. You can still work with these genes of course, its just that some pairings should be avoided. Genes that are not on the list can be combined in any way without any problems.

[Sita]

You should quarantine all new arrivals for at least 3 months, and I've heard of breeders doing 6 months when working with high-end morphs, so that you should give you an answer right there. How much money would you lose if the new one is sick and you pair it up with one or more of your males, and they all catch what she has? You'll either be looking at hundreds in vet bills, or worse, they all die. O_o