Orange Dream and Enchi Question...

[ClarkT]

Has anyone tested whether or not the Orange Dream and Enchi are allelic/on the same locus? Anyone have an Enchi orange dream they've bred? Or, anyone that does, are they willing to share?

The enchi combos sure look a whole lot like OD combos to me... The super OD looks a lot like a super Enchi, and the Enchi OD looks like them, too. Just wondering if it's virtually different lines of the same mutation--with the difference of darkness/lightness like a dark normal vs. a light normal.

[h00blah]

I don't think the super OD looks like the super enchi at all. The super OD spider doesn't look like the super enchi spider. The super OD fire also doesn't look like the super enchi fire. Not to me at least. The super OD seems more like a super clean animal. The super enchi stuff is kinda dirty and very different looking. They are definitely different mutations that do different things. If they are allelic, then I must get some OD because both make fantastic stuff.

[Griffith]

I see alot of difference in them just googling the different morphs.
That being said I still appreciate your OP because I had never taken the time to lookup a Super OD, and my god it is awesome

[Joshua Jasper]

Just put a deposit on this OD Female so I have been doing a lot of reseach and there is an Orange Dream Enchi Combo and it is HOT! Here is my female:
Summary, they are not the same gene and that has been proven out


Here is an Enchi Orange Dream
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-orange-dream/

Here is the Triton I am working on (Orange Dream X Enchi X Firefly)


Here is her first partner: Iron Man Stinging Bumblebee PHOG

[coolballsdave]

I don't think the super OD looks like the super enchi at all. The super OD spider doesn't look like the super enchi spider. The super OD fire also doesn't look like the super enchi fire. Not to me at least. The super OD seems more like a super clean animal. The super enchi stuff is kinda dirty and very different looking. They are definitely different mutations that do different things. If they are allelic, then I must get some OD because both make fantastic stuff.

There are thousands of genes in ball pythons that all contribute to the overall appearance of the snake (polymorphism). On WOBP it's important to remember that the pictures are just one example of the combo. Every snake will look different because you are not just comparing the genes in question, you are also comparing all the other genes that the individuals have that play into what the overall appearance looks like. I personally still believe that the orange dream and enchi are the same gene, but I don't think arguing the topic is beneficial to the trade.

[coolballsdave]

There are thousands of genes in ball pythons that all contribute to the overall appearance of the snake (polymorphism). On WOBP it's important to remember that the pictures are just one example of the combo. Every snake will look different because you are not just comparing the genes in question, you are also comparing all the other genes that the individuals have that play into what the overall appearance looks like. I personally still believe that the orange dream and enchi are the same gene, but I don't think arguing the topic is beneficial to the trade.

I sorta regret the last sentence there. This thread was not posted to argue the topic of whether the orange dream and enchi are the same, so please disregard my last sentence. I'm totally with Clark though, I'd like to know if these two genes are different allele's on the same locus (in the same complex). Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

[asplundii]

They are not allelic. Ozzy bred his OD/Enchi out last year and produced another OD/Enchi