Patternless sheds??

[Dark Lady Kat]

I know ghost produce patternless sheds but are there any other morphs that produce patternless sheds?

[RobNJ]

Albinos...

[satomi325]

Patternless snakes like BELs, some champs, etc.

[Quantum Constrictors]

Yup Albinos.... Looking at one of my girls sheds right now.... didnt even notice LOL

[Dark Lady Kat]

Patternless snakes like BELs, some champs, etc.

I ask because I have a seemingly normal looking and assumed normal BP she is rather dull but nothing real impressive she has an awesome pattern and some blushing to her but through 4 sheds now every one has had absolutely no pattern even put against a trace light I can find no pattern I know that to prove it out I would have to get a 100% het ghost or a ghost male but before spending the money on a recessive trait male I would like to know what the chances are that she may actually be a ghost I do know that occasionally any snake including a normal can produce a patternless shed once in a while but this is 4 consecutive sheds with no pattern, I am just leery of buying a recessive trait male that will produce nothing more than hets which is ok if its a possibility she may be a ghost and it doesn't prove oh well I will buy my intended mixed dominant and co dominant gene male for future breeding's.

[RobNJ]

Posting a picture would be a pretty quick way to find out if she's ghost or not...

[Dark Lady Kat]

Posting a picture would be a pretty quick way to find out if she's ghost or not...

These are from when I first got her and I will take new ones in a few days to compare with the shiny in some of the pictures is from the camera she doesnt shine at all.

this is her with a definite normal she is the one near the top

this one of her belly and side shows a lil better the dark browns that look black in most of the other pictures

another side and head shot

this one was taken with the day after a fresh shed


hope these help like I said I can get you fresh pictures tomorrow after I get off work she ate last night so don't want to disturb her today

[RobNJ]

Not a hypo...could be a het, but then you'd need to buy that male to find out anyway.

Randy Remington(member here) can tell you something about het hypos and clear sheds though.

[Dark Lady Kat]

Not a hypo...could be a het, but then you'd need to buy that male to find out anyway.

Randy Remington(member here) can tell you something about het hypos and clear sheds though.

So it is possible that she may be a het Ghost and that is why she is continually producing clear sheds? If I where to get a male that is dominant co dominant visible morph and carried het hypo would it be possible to prove it our that way or only with the single gene? As you can see from her size I am a few years away from breeding her but I would like to potentially buy a 2013 hatch-ling to raise to breed with her so I am planning early.

[RobNJ]

So it is possible that she may be a het Ghost and that is why she is continually producing clear sheds?

Sure it's possible...likely or not, I can't say. Who knows how many hets and poss hets have leaked through the cracks and get passed off time and time again. I haven't seen a het hypo shed clear yet, but some say they have...I've just really not payed much attention, as I've only purchased and produced 100% hets.

And yes, any male, visual or het for ghost would work.