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    Help with burm

    I recently bought a female burm. She's between 8 and 9 feet. Very skinny, has basically nothing on her. Like retic skinny. Almost colubrid like. Her underside caves in and her skin is very baggy. The guy I bought her from said she recently laid eggs. Is this what they're supposed to be like after laying eggs? She has a big scar on her face, I have no idea what it's from because he said he didn't feed her live. When I brought her home I put her in quarantine. Today I noticed she has a scab on her gums. All the substrate was also sticking on around the front of her mouth. She's extremely restless. I thought I noticed mites today so I soaked her, cleaned her enclosure, washed it with mite spray, and wiped her off with a towel with mite spray on it. I don't see any more, but I really don't know what to think of her anymore. She doesn't stay still. She continually pushes up on the enclosure top. I notice sometimes she drools a little bit. I don't see any other signs of RI. Her temps are fine. It's getting really stressful because I don't know what's wrong. She doesn't do anything odd besides act very restless. Does anyone know what's up?
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    Pictures would help. It sounds like she's really under weight. I would probably take her to the vet too.

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    Sounds very underweight. Do you have a weight?

    Details on how you have her set up, temps and humidity etc. will help you get quicker answers.

    Sounds like she was neglected

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    They get skinny after laying eggs, but from the description I highly doubt that is the case. It sounds like an underfed snake, the pushing could very well be a result of looking for food. I'd get her to a vet for a full check up including for a potential RI since burmese are notorious for that. Get a fecal done if you can when you can as well, they aren't too expensive. Make sure you have her very well QT'd. Burmese are not suppose to be morbid obese, but if scales can pinch together its bad news. Make sure you keep her warm and humidity up. And don't start with giant foods, work your way up for sure.
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    Re: Help with burm

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    for a potential RI since burmese are notorious for that.
    This is news to me. Do you have a source for this bit of information?

    Also, the rubbing is likely due to the mites. They itch, even after they're gone. Get the temp in the hot spot up to 92-94, make sure there's a water bowl big enough for it to soak in and try feeding it in a day or two. It will probably go into a shed cycle soon too. Pics would help.
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    Wilomn have I become your Ed Clark on BP? If so challenge accepted - A quick google search with "Burmese Python Illness" will show the majority of the reported problems to be RI or Pneumonia related illness. I trust you can type into google.
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    I don't have an exact weight. I have an 8 foot boa that was weighed 12 pounds and she is lighter than him. She's in a tank with a 93 hotspot and 50% humidity. I put her on paper towel to see any mites easier. She is far away from my other snakes in QT. I took some pictures of what I could get. I couldn't get her head close up because I can't keep her still. I'm getting info for a vet that's somewhat close by.
    I just fed her and she took it quickly.

    Here is her middle


    This is about as thick as she gets.

    This is what it looks like when I pick her up on some parts of her body, the skin sags completely away from the muscle.

    Here is kinda how it caves in, I can't get a good picture. It does that all the way down her body.

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    Re: Help with burm

    Quote Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    A quick google search with "Burmese Python Illness" will show the majority of the reported problems to be RI or Pneumonia related illness. I trust you can type into google.
    That's your source? Google? And everything on the internet is true too... So, no personal experience, which is understandable given that you are so young, but google alone does not a fact make.

    That snake doesn't look that bad. If it's eating it's got a good chance of being just fine with a few meals and a good home.
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    Ok. How often should I feed her? Should I keep it at every 7 days? or? I've never dealt with a problem like this before.

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    Every 7 should be fine. A couple large rats or a nice fat jumbo, maybe a small rabbit if you can get one.
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