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    finally got some corns

    A couple weeks ago I was at the Cleveland expo and the wife convinced me our collection was missing something. We didn't have any colubrids. I wasn't a fan of worms but looking around I couldn't help but to see some really attractive corn morphs. Now the problem is I don't know jack about corn genetics. So If anyone can point me in the direction of a good source to do some reading it would be greatly appreciated. I got the basics of recessive and co/dom genes down from dealing with balls and boas but there is just seems to be so much more to the types of corns that its almost a separate lingo. Lol. Anyway here's my corn starter kit.
    1.1 butter motley
    1.1 lavender het patternless
    I gave $120 for those for hatchlings

    1.1 sunglow albino
    $30 for this pair

    0.1 snow
    And I picked up this girl after the show from an individual with a 12x12x18 exoterra tank and decor for $40.

    So did I do ok or did I get taken for a ride on the prices? Not that it really matters because I really like them all but curious as I have no experience with buying corns. Also if anyone could clue me in as to what my morphs are geneticly instead of trade names that would be awesome. Thanks all!
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    Not too great with corn genetics, but I'm pretty sure that most are recessive. As far as pricing, I think that you did pretty well, I sometimes see normal corns at $15-20, and you got some wicked morphs for no more than $30 apiece. Sounds like a good deal to me!

    Of course, WE NEED PICS!

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    Awesome! I love cornsnakes, they are simple and beautiful
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    Re: finally got some corns

    Adult corns are gorgeous

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    Those prices are actually really good! My butter motley was $50. And lavenders are not the cheapest either. Now, I'm not familiar with patternless really at all, but my limmited knowledge says that it is not a gene. I could be wrong though. You may want to look into that.

    Butter motley has these 3 basic genes in it: Caramel, Amel, and Motley. Motley is a pattern morph and that is how those snakes have plain white bellies and the kinda stripy neck with the circles. Lol (poor description)

    Lavender is a basic morph.

    Snow: Amel and Anery.

    I can't help you with the sunglows, but I'm sure they have amel in them as well. Maybe sunkissed or something. Pictures might help!

    All the morphs that you are dealing with are reccesive. http://corncalc.com/ will help you a lot. Especially if you are planning to breed, which I'm assuming you are.
    Corns:
    0.0.1 Normal; 0.1.0 Amel Motley
    1.0.0 Butter Motley; 0.1.0 Charcoal

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    Re: finally got some corns

    Thanks for the info folks. I thought I did ok on my haggling skills lol. I'll try and post some pics but they don't hold still to well and only camera I have is on my cell.
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    Re: finally got some corns: added some pics

    Sorry these lil boogers move way to quick so just got the best of crappy cell pics I could of each type.

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    Lavendar het patternless


    Butter motley pics do her no justice
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    They look good! I still don't know what is in a sunglow, but it does for sure have amel. And from a little bit of research, I think that "patternless" comes from the strip gene. And you can not predict a for sure out come. So what I'm saying is, A) You can't have het patternless without het stripe, and B) You can not predict how many of the offspring will have the patternless appearance because it is not a gene, more like it is line bred to look like that. Hope that helps!
    Corns:
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    Re: finally got some corns

    Thank you Andrew21 I'm just going off what I was told by the breeder but I couldn't find a whole lot on patternless. The pair I got came out of a clutch with patternless siblings. I was told mom was het and dad was visual. Idk guess ill find out in a couple years. Either was I've got some pretty new babies to enjoy!
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    Glad to help! They were a good deal even without any hets!
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    1.0.0 Butter Motley; 0.1.0 Charcoal

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