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    Mouth infection (?)

    I just went to check on Snug, my little normal 2yo boy, and he appears to have some sort of mouth infection. Now I should mention first (before mouth rot is suggested), he has ALWAYS had a problem with his "lower lip." I bred this boy's clutch myself, and from the minute he slithered out of the egg, I noticed a weird misshapen bump - right around where the egg tooth usually is, so I'm guessing it broke while he was emerging.

    I have had some issues with the humidity in his tub, since he always re-arranges the furniture & puts the water over the heat strip... I'd pretty much given up keeping things 100% dry, so maybe that caused this flare-up? I will call the vet on Monday, but since it's 3am on a Sat/Sun, I'd like to hear some suggestions in the meantime. He seems otherwise fine, btw, and the inside (what I could see) doesn't look like mouth rot or RI. Oh, and he ate a live mouse about 5 days ago.



    The clear "dot" has been there since hatching...




    See how it juts out a bit? It's always a little oddly-shaped, but this is worse than usual.
    Last edited by Lolo76; 12-16-2012 at 07:33 AM.
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    P.S. Here's how he looks normally, so you can compare the bump/mouth then & now... one more thought, is it possible he injured his mouth (either bitten or smashed) during the last feeding?

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    Nobody has any suggestions? C'mon!
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    Thanks... I was hoping for some input, since I am worried about my little guy! He's a real sweetie, and has always been a bit "special needs" (hence the reason I've kept a normal boy this long). Oh well, guess I'll just call the vet tomorrow.

    You know what's funny in a sad kind of way? Because of this swelling around the mouth, his tongue is flicking crooked - I couldn't help but giggle at that, lol.
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    A feed or strike definately could have cause a little swelling. Take some regular listerine and wash that area with it 1x a day. At least every other day. The swelling should go down. If it persists take him to the vet.


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    Thank you!! That's exactly what I was looking for - a "home remedy" to try before seeing if a vet visit is needed.
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    Re: Mouth infection (?)

    Hiya,

    Can you pull down the lip or open the mouth to check for red/ yellow spots inside or signs of a broken tooth?


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    Re: Mouth infection (?)

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hiya,

    Can you pull down the lip or open the mouth to check for red/ yellow spots inside or signs of a broken tooth?

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    Hmm... not sure he'll let me do that, but I'll try!
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    I would NOT use listerene it contains THYMOL and as with most antiseptics ending in OL it is a derivative of phenol. Reptiles are especially sensitive to phenols much more than mammals. I would avoid using a phenol based anything around them this is where the pine wood chip debate comes from and listerene certainly contains more phenols than pine wood does (likely more than cedar) the second part of this is why do anything at all. It is a pointed disinfectant to kill 'germs' that cause gingivitis and bad breath. Not those that cause infection or much else human mouth germs are not likely to be found on surfaces or in a snakes mouth as the body temps are different.

    If you must use a home remedy (I would suggest a vet not some half baked home method) Maxi guard oral cleansing gel with no alcohol or a chlorhexidine oral rinse.

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