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    Drastic cinny difference

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    Ok. These 2 came out of the same cinny clutch but the second one looks sooooo much darker. Like a black pastel. Were gonna hold back the darker one.

    Thoughts? Input?

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    Re: Drastic cinny difference

    Looks like a cinny...not nearly the blushing that the first one has.

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    What were the parents?

    The first one is clearly a cinny. And I agree that the second one looks more "Black Pastel". It even has the dark squiggles in the alien heads characteristic of BPs.

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    Re: Drastic cinny difference

    Different lines of cinnamon can look quite different from one another.

    Here is a pic of a super cinny clutch with two drastically different looking cinnamons, a couple supers, and a normal. (the more orange of the two cinnamons now resides with Liv). Although one is more orange and a black back, while the other has purplish tones and is more striped, both are completely normal cinnamons.



    Here is a photo of the purplish striped girl at about 150g next to yet another line of cinnamon.

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    0.2 Pastel
    0.3 Cinnamon
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    Cinny's like many other morphs are variable in quality even within a clutch as TJ shows.

    Both are cinny's
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    Re: Drastic cinny difference

    Wow! That's the same difference between mine. They are clutch mates of a cinny male/normal female. That 1 was the only super dark one that came out. She has nearly no blushing and minimal flames. She shed last night, pic was taken today. Our only other female looks almost like a hypo version of her. We're gonna keep and breed both. :0) Thank you all for your input.

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    P.s. I love the supers! That's our goal with the cinnys. Do you cinny to cinny and if so, do you have issues with duck bill?

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    Re: Drastic cinny difference

    Quote Originally Posted by h&tmaster View Post
    Wow! That's the same difference between mine. They are clutch mates of a cinny male/normal female. That 1 was the only super dark one that came out. She has nearly no blushing and minimal flames. She shed last night, pic was taken today. Our only other female looks almost like a hypo version of her. We're gonna keep and breed both. :0) Thank you all for your input.

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    P.s. I love the supers! That's our goal with the cinnys. Do you cinny to cinny and if so, do you have issues with duck bill?

    I had much more issue with kinking in that clutch...
    Pairing was two separate lines of cinnamon, and out of 8 eggs the results were:
    5 Supers
    2 Cinnamons
    1 Normal

    Of the 5 supers only ONE came out flawless. Two were so badly deformed neither made it out of the egg on their own and both died, and the two remaining had minor kink issues and were given away as pets.
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    1.0 Lithium Blaze
    1.0 Bee
    1.0 Spotnose
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    0.1 Super Cinnamon
    0.2 Pastel
    0.3 Cinnamon
    0.1 Mojave
    0.1 Pinstripe
    0.1 Spotnose
    0.1 Het Hypo
    0.2 Het Pied
    1.1 Red Albino
    1.1 Orange Albino
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    0.1 Het Snow
    1.0 Anaconda Het Albino
    0.1 Anaconda
    1.1 Het Pink Pastel
    0.5 Het Albino
    1.0 Het Snow
    0.1 Red Phase
    0.1 Pink Phase
    0.1 Green Phase

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    Cinnamons are a lot like pastels in that you can totally change their look with selective breeding. Some are lighter, some really dark, some with completely faded out eye stripes, some with prominent eye stripes, some with dorsal stripes, some with black backs.

    These were two cinnys I produced in 2010 that were darker.

    And these two were produced in 2011 by a different female. They turned out lighter with lighter highlights and more pronounced eye stripes.


    They can vary a lot.

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