buyer beware "deserts"

[pastel0711]

i recently contacted a guy about getting some ball pythons and from what i can tell he tried to scam me into getting a female desert hatchling whitch he said he produced from his female desert. Now from what i have researched female deserts do not reproduce or at least not to live through it.
this is the email conversations
Me: could i have a picture of the female breeder normaland her weight please.Also how many eggs did she lay?Also what else do you have for females? thanks alot
Him:shes my first normal and she wasnt bred this year at all, shes 14-1500grams secondly is a hatchling desert female i got this summer from my desert female
Me:Female deserts cannot reproduce so it must just be a normal and was it 150 you were asking for the normal.
Him:SHES A DESERT ALRIGHT JUST LIKE MOMA
and then we go forth to argue as he calls me an amature and what not and hes been breeding since the 90s and whatnot. I remain as nice as possible stating he needs more research because either he is scamming me or someone scammed him when seeling him the female "desert". He gets very mad and whatnot
this is just a warning buyer beware when buying any animal and pay close attention to detail.

[RoseyReps]

I would ask for pictures of "Moma" on eggs. That right there would be worth seeing. If he's got a reproducing female desert, he's got a little gold mine and isn't telling anyone about it. What is the breeders name? Maybe he meant desert ghost? Grasping at straws here Glad you didn't get taken.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

You do realize that a buyer beware without a name is pretty useless right?

[pastel0711]

sorry meant to put his name in it is steve sabattis and he showed me pics of the mom then the baby and im not 100 percent on desserts but they didnt look much more then a normal.

[wolfy-hound]

First, you have no proof he doesn't have a desert female that does produce.
Second, you can't say "buyer beware" unless you state something to "beware" of. There's no name to "beware of buyer" and there's varying opinions on the deserts still, even if overwhelming votes tend to go to "females are sterile".
Third, if you start calling someone a liar, you can't expect for the deal to go well. Stating that the guy was lying because you don't think a desert female can produce is a guarantee for him to get mad. I would have. If you are 100% convinced it can't happen, then don't mention it and just deal for the ones you do think are good. If you think the guy is scamming, just bow out and tell him you don't want to deal.

Just saying... calling some a liar with no proof is a great way to burn bridges. The attitude tends to follow people. He could be one of the only people with a producing desert... he could have been referring to a desert ghost... no telling.

[snake8myelbo]

Post that pic up!

[pastel0711]

i didnt stright up call him a liar i even asked where he got the mother because i was curious but he did not answer and asked him to look into it aswell before considering selling and to contact his breeder. I remained polite the entire time because i like to help people when i can . I tried to do this here because he is the first person who lives near me who also breed snakes so i planned on getting a few from him.

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[snake8myelbo]

Looks like a normal to me!

[wolfy-hound]

He said he had a "hatchling desert" out of his desert female. You stated "Female deserts cannot reproduce so it must just be a normal "

That, sir, is calling him a liar. You don't have to point a finger and yell LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE to call a person a liar.

The picture you posted doesn't really look like a desert to me, but I'm no expert and it's not a great picture.

[Kenj620]

In my opinion that hatchling in the picture could very well be a desert. It also looks like it is in shed in the picture so not as bright as normal.