New to breeding and need information!

[SoCal Pythons]

As i said, im new to breeding snakes and just wanted to know if i started with females that were a piebald and a albino what male should i get?

[BHReptiles]

As i said, im new to breeding snakes and just wanted to know if i started with females that were a piebald and a albino what male should i get?

Because both the piebald genes and the albino genes are recessive, you would get babies that appear normal but are het for albino and piebald. If you are wanting to sell babies that look albino, piebald, or albino piebalds, you will need to keep those normal het albino/pied babies and either breed them together (if you want albino pieds) or breed them to either the albino or pied for albino or piebald babies.

[King's Royal Pythons]

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[snakesRkewl]

Because both the piebald genes and the albino genes are recessive, you would get babies that appear normal but are het for albino and piebald. If you are wanting to sell babies that look albino, piebald, or albino piebalds, you will need to keep those normal het albino/pied babies and either breed them together (if you want albino pieds) or breed them to either the albino or pied for albino or piebald babies.

The question was what male to get to breed to piebald and albino...

OP, I would get whatever morph you want in the pied or albino version.
If you want albino black pastels then pick up a male black pastel het albino.
If you want enchi pieds pick up an enchi het pied.

The sky's the limit when it comes to making pied/albino combos

[BHReptiles]

The question was what male to get to breed to piebald and albino...

My appologies! I completely read the question wrong! As for which male to get...it really doesn't matter! I would however, buy a het albino or het pied in whatever morph you get so you can breed to your albino and piebald for visual albino/pied babies.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

What is your budget? What do YOU want to produce in the future?

[SoCal Pythons]

Well, i wanted to stay under $1000 but i would go $1250 if i had to and i want mostly just albino pied babies, piebalds and albinos. but i like super pastels and i was wondering if you could do a piebald to a het. albino?

Thanks for all of the help too.

[shadow120]

i would be looking for anymorph i could find thats double het albino pied

[snakesRkewl]

i was wondering if you could do a piebald to a het. albino?

Sure if you want a bunch of possible hets that may or may not make albino's

Piebald X het albino makes normals that are 100% het for piebald and have a 50% chance of being het for albino.

[JKPCONSTRICTORS]

Well, i wanted to stay under $1000 but i would go $1250 if i had to and i want mostly just albino pied babies, piebalds and albinos.

For less than $1000 you can pick up a male and a female that are both DH for albino and piebald. Breed the male to all 3, the new DH female and both of the females you already own. From the DH to DH pairing you have the possibility of producing visual albino pieds, piebalds, and albinos. From the DH to piebald pairing you could get visual piebalds. From the DH to albino pairing you could visual albinos. You will also get an assortment of possible hets from all of these clutches.

Or, you could spend your money picking up a piebald male along with another (or possibly 2) albino females. Same as above, breed this male to all of them. From the piebald to piebald pairing, all you will produce are visual pieds. From the pied to albino (the more albino females you pair him with, the better) all you will get are double hets. Once you hatch these double hets, hold back all of the females and at least two males. You will use these to produce albino pieds in the future. When you're working with double hets you only have a 1 in 16 chance of actually producing the snake you're really looking for (the albino pied), so the more you have to pair up, the better the odds are that you will actually produce that snake.

Or, you could pick up and albino male and another pied female. This will put you in the same situation as above, except you'll be producing visual albinos rather than pieds.

It all depends on what you actually want from those first few clutches. No matter what option you choose, in order to produce a visual double recessive, you're going to have to have at least one male and female that are both double hets.

I hope this helps with your questions.