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    Look at what I got!!!

    Remember when I posted these?



    Well, on 8-25-12 I got four little beautiful eggs. All will be Cinnamon 100% Het. Piebald. Both male and female's first clutch.


    Ball Pythons:
    0.1.0 Bumble Bee- Schnapps
    0.1.0 Pinstripe- Penny
    0.1.0 Super Cinnamon- Cleo
    0.1.0 Albino- Daiquiri
    0.1.0 Low White Piebald- Hershey
    1.0.0 Low White Piebald- Reese
    1.0.0 Paradox Super Cinnamon- Dash
    1.0.0 100% Het. Albino- Jester
    1.0.0 50% Het. Albino Jake

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    Congrats, the dust on those eggs sure gives an idea how much they're rolled around before the female is satisfied!

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    so a visual to a non het equals 100% het?

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    Re: Look at what I got!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    Congrats, the dust on those eggs sure gives an idea how much they're rolled around before the female is satisfied!
    Yes, it sure does. Now I'm in for the long wait, ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melly911 View Post
    so a visual to a non het equals 100% het?
    A Super Cinnamon is a dominant gene morph, that when bred to any other morph will put a guaranteed cinnamon gene in the offspring, same with all supers, such as the Super Mojave, Super Pastel, Super Yellow Belly (Ivory), etc.. As for the Piebald, which is a recessive gene morph, when a visual is bred rather than a Het. Piebald, all offspring will be 100% Het. Piebald. This is also the same with other visual recessive gene morphs such as Albino, Clown, Genetic Stripe, etc.. Therefore the clutch I have will all be Cinnamon 100% Het. Piebald. Hope that helps, I know getting into genetics at first is hard.
    Ball Pythons:
    0.1.0 Bumble Bee- Schnapps
    0.1.0 Pinstripe- Penny
    0.1.0 Super Cinnamon- Cleo
    0.1.0 Albino- Daiquiri
    0.1.0 Low White Piebald- Hershey
    1.0.0 Low White Piebald- Reese
    1.0.0 Paradox Super Cinnamon- Dash
    1.0.0 100% Het. Albino- Jester
    1.0.0 50% Het. Albino Jake

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    So, unfortunately, I have some grim updates on this clutch. Sorry, I have not been on in a little while keeping things updated, so it's kind of all at once now. But anyhow, two eggs went bad early on, lost veins, and I discarded them. I was then left with two eggs. The last two eggs pipped 9-30-12, very early, I know. I'm fairly certain I did not find them late, as I was highly anticipating this clutch, but I am not 100% sure, I just don't think that was it as I check the snakes on a very regular basis. Out of the two that pipped, one was perfect, peeking out, and very curious, the other not so much. The pip holes were very low, not spilling much fluid, but low, and not so active as the other. After not seeing any activity for a few days on the low one for a few days, on 10-02-12 I cut the egg to see what the problem was. Turned out it had a very tangle umbilical cord, and passed. Unfortunately, I did not know this was happening in the egg, as I could not see inside the pip holes. Below I photographed the baby that was lost, a beautiful Cinnamon 100% Het. Piebald with two heavy ringers around the tail.



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    As for the last egg- last baby standing, it was still active and I decided to black out the incubator and make it pitch black to hopefully make it feel comfortable enough to come out. I did not want to be to intrusive and cause a problem when things seemed to be going well. Fortunately, blacking out the incubator worked, and on 10-03-12 at 5:00am I had a new addition. But unfortunately, it came out lacking something it had before, an eye. Now this I thought seemed very strange, it had it's eye while pipping and all that. As I was cleaning the tub, which was now only moist paper towels and an egg sitting on top of them, I could not find anything that would of caused this, or the actual eye itself. The way it appears, looks as if the eye may have never really been attached to anything, as there was no blood, not even a scratch. However, I am positive that it was indeed an eye, not dirt, substrate, etc.. Anyone else ever have this happen before? I am truly curious. Anyhow, this baby is shown below, again, a Cinnamon 100% Het. Piebald, just with out the beautiful ringers.









    On 10-10-12 the little one had it's first shed. I have not taken any updated pictures since the shed, but I promise once I do I will post more pictures. I am picking up a mouse hopper tomorrow, since I am off from work, and will be attempting the first feed. I also still have not sexed it yet, I am holding off on stressing it until it at least has a meal or two in it's belly. I'm actually hoping for a male, but either way it's a keeper for me.
    And for my last grim update on this post (Dear god, hopefully), Tipper, my female Piebald that mothered this clutch passed away yesterday 10-15-12. I am uncertain of why, she did not retain any eggs, and she was given extra special attention after having this clutch, as she looked a little thin after laying. She has been refusing food ever since breeding, but it has not been a substantial period of time, and she was 1700 grams before breeding. As well, she has been offered food regularly, so I figured she would take it if she were really that hungry. I never tried to force feed her, but I'm not sure she died of starvation either. I have had a heavy eye on the rest of my collection, and this new baby. I don't think I can take anymore losses this season.



    Ball Pythons:
    0.1.0 Bumble Bee- Schnapps
    0.1.0 Pinstripe- Penny
    0.1.0 Super Cinnamon- Cleo
    0.1.0 Albino- Daiquiri
    0.1.0 Low White Piebald- Hershey
    1.0.0 Low White Piebald- Reese
    1.0.0 Paradox Super Cinnamon- Dash
    1.0.0 100% Het. Albino- Jester
    1.0.0 50% Het. Albino Jake

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    That really sucks, my condolences. Hoping the little one pulls through and thrives for you.

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    I'm very sorry for your losses, what temp were you incubating at?

    It looks like the baby that died was also missing an eye. I'm not so sure I would breed a snake that has a defect like missing an eye, but I guess that's the only way to tell if it is genetic or not. :/

    Good luck with the sol survivor.
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    Thatīs really bad news. Iīm sorry...

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    Ashley, Crystal and I are both reading this together. We are both very sorry for your losses...especially Tipper. It looks like the baby that passed was missing an eye too, so not sure there was incubation probs, or a genetic issue. But, we are both hoping that little one pulls through for you. And I hope it eats well for you, but if it doesnt let me know, cuz Im good at getting non-eaters to eat. Also let us know if we can help out in any way.
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    Very sorry for your misfortunes.

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