Help on ID crestie morphs

[Genetics]

Hi guys,
We have some cresties, but we have no idea what morphs they are and would really liked som input on what they might be... I have no idea how hard/easy it is to "morph" them, we're new into CG morphs and it seems pretty hard to find out what they might be !

I'l mark the pics with numbers so there will be no misunderstanding.

1 - the male:


2


3


4


5


6 - bad pic, but this female has the same colour all over her body, with some few spots


7


8


So.... Any ideas? Better pics can be fixed when "ordered"

[EverEvolvingExotics]

Crested Gecko morphs are more variable to interpretation than with other species such as Ball Pythons or African Fat Tails. This site will help you out a lot to start to understand what to look for in morphs.

http://www.pangeareptile.com/forums/...ko-Morph-Guide

I've tried refreshing the page a few times and for some reason it just keeps loading with some incomplete pictures. From the looks of it almost all of them are tigers or brindles (the pictures that load) with a couple flames. Take a look at that thread I posted and try to analyze what you have. If I can get the page to load in it's entirety I'll post my opinion of what all of them are.

[EverEvolvingExotics]

Okay it loaded when I submitted my thread. Here we go...

1. Brindle with dal spots. If it has over 25 you can consider it to be a dalmatian brindle.
2. This one is my favorite of the bunch and looks to be a brick red Tiger.
3. I would need a picture of it's sides to be sure but it looks like a flame to me. It could possibly be a Harlequin depending on the pattern of a side picture.
4. Flame
5. Flame? Maybe the wrinkles are pattern...
6. Buckskin
7. Brindle/Flame, not sure
8. Flame

Like I said people interpret morphs on their own level. What I see, another may see something else. Apart from morphs you should look into as many high quality Crested Geckos as you possibly can to see what traits you enjoy the most and focus on trying to reproduce those. I'm guessing you are trying to breed considering how many you got, I could be wrong. Either way congrats on the new additions, if you have any questions don't hesitate to PM me or ask on here!

[Genetics]

Thank you so much ! Yea, we're breeding, have already two babies from 1 and 5, one of them are very sharp in colour. 5 and 7 are very alike, but 5 is more orange and 7 is very light

[mainbutter]

I was going to post that same link but you beat me to it!

Ditto on variable morphs, it's all polygenetic rather than simply passing on single alleles.

[Genetics]

I've been on the link, or my boyfriend has, but its always nice to get input from folks with more experience.. In an other forum I got this: "Looks like tigers with the exceptions being #3 harley partial pin, #6 brown bicolor, and #8 flame. It is easier to tell if they are fired up." and it's a bit away from what's told here?

[EverEvolvingExotics]

I've been on the link, or my boyfriend has, but its always nice to get input from folks with more experience.. In an other forum I got this: "Looks like tigers with the exceptions being #3 harley partial pin, #6 brown bicolor, and #8 flame. It is easier to tell if they are fired up." and it's a bit away from what's told here?

It's really not that far from what I said. Tigers/Brindles can be hard to tell apart from just a single picture. #3 I said was possibly a harely but I'd need to see another picture of it's lateral pattern. Looking at it again I now see the partial pinning as well. #6 being called brown bicolor is what I call a buckskin. Sounds about the same to me, like I said morphs are left to interpretation to the individual looking at the gecko.

[Genetics]

I've read a bit more now and se that's pretty much the same yea, sorry for that. So brindle is a more patterned tiger.. The pics I've seen of brindles have been much more patterned than this one, but he has much pattern on his belly.

Here's another pic:




some few more pics of #3:





So buckskin and brown bicolour is the same... I have to do a lot of reading, this is much harder than BP

OHh.. by the way, here's some pic of the latest pipped baby:

[EverEvolvingExotics]

That new pipped baby looks to have some portholes, one of my favorite traits! Honestly, people can call their crested geckos whatever they want. It's one of the reasons some breeders have moved away from using morph names and just focused on highlighting/explaining quality traits. You can have someone calling a red harlequin a super raspberry cream milkshake and people would be thinking their red harley is the same, it can be difficult to say the least. Line bred traits are much more difficult to classify over the majority of BP morphs, it's also what makes crested geckos so interesting. You really never know what you will end up with!

Good luck with them, thanks for sharing the update.

[Genetics]

Djiis, this is hard, and there so little information about this compared to BP....

I've read the other thread here where it's said that it can't be determined what morph a young crestie really is because of the colourchanges as it grows... But how to tell what morph your offsprings are? If the mother is a ... well, say a brown bicolor and the dad a tiger/brindle dal.... What would the offsprings be? Determined by the colour it develops or just a brown bicolor tiger/brindle dal?