First Clutch Out! Questions for Woma Experts!

[PythonChick]

Hey everyone! My first clutch from a Pewter female to a Woma Het Red Axanthic male has hatched and the results are below. I think I know what I've got, but I want to confirm everything with some people with a little more experience. Thanks for your opinions in advance!

Clutch: The Order is Baby 3 and 4 on top and Baby 1 and 2 on bottom.





First Baby Out, a Boy:



Second Baby, a Female Cinnamon:



Third, a Female:





Fourth, a Female:

[Solarsoldier001]

3 and 4 normal and 1 pewter and 2

That pewter is awesome. Could it have woma?


1.0 Pewter (Dexter), 1.0 Butter Het OG (Butters), 0.1 Pinstripe (Honey), 0.1 Lesser (Pepper), 0.1 Butter Het OG (Aurora), 0.1 Spider Het OG (Betsy), 0.1 Mojave (Maya)
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[WingedWolfPsion]

Baby 1 might have woma, wait until it sheds and colors up, and compare to pewters of similar age. The cinnamon gene, one would expect, could disrupt the woma pattern. (The lesser gene does). Woma will tend to make babies lighter, for some reason. You'll also know, if it develops a wobble as it gets older--womas have a minor wobble, like spiders but not usually as dramatic. Not all will, but if it does, you know.
My GUESS..since I have actually never seen a woma pewter...is that it is just a pewter. I don't see enough there that would suggest the woma gene, and I expect it to get darker once it sheds.

The rest do not have woma.

[joebad976]

I am not that good with the het red but I am going to say that is a Pewter Het Red. Then a cinny and 2 normals.

[Luke Martin]

The Pewter definitely has Woma in it.

[PythonChick]

The Pewter definitely has Woma in it.

Thanks! If you don't mind telling me what sorts of things you are looking for when you make that call I would greatly appreciate it. I definitely feel like he looked different than a normal Pewter, but I am having a hard time quantifying it.

[WingedWolfPsion]

I'd go with het red at a guess there, too, for the pewter.

Again, though, until it sheds, it's really hard to call. They can change dramatically. I don't see woma, though, with all that blushing on the back. Unless you're talking about HG Woma instead of Woma.

Edit--
Just occurred to me, it might be a pewter het red woma, and the het red would account for the blushing and black back. I actually think it's a distinct possibility.

[PythonChick]

I'd go with het red at a guess there, too, for the pewter.

Again, though, until it sheds, it's really hard to call. They can change dramatically. I don't see woma, though, with all that blushing on the back. Unless you're talking about HG Woma instead of Woma.

Edit--
Just occurred to me, it might be a pewter het red woma, and the het red would account for the blushing and black back. I actually think it's a distinct possibility.

Thanks for the opinions! I will definitely post pictures once it sheds. I had found some internet pictures labeled Pastel Gargoyle (Cinny Het Red) and the animal was almost a patternless silver. So in my head, the four gene animal also wouldn't have much of a pattern. Seeing him next to the Gargoyle and Presumed Gargoyle Woma though makes me think he has the het red gene. The black back on him is pretty intense.