Battle of the Tstats! R vs J

[jfaria1891]

RANCO vs JOHNSON

so this is my first year breeding and im building an incubator out of a 32 bottle stainless steel wine cooler ... there shal be pictures when the time comes and obv eggs incubate in the winter and i live where we have really cold winters so the heat stays on in the apartment at like 65-70 so the apartment stays at a pretty constant temp so i feel safe using an on/off Tstat and saving myself a few bucks and i will use water bottles to reduce any temp flux. Once i make some money breeding i do plan on putting the money back into my balls which would include upgrading to a herpstat or whatever is best when that time comes. but for the first few seasons im gonna make do with what i can afford as i am a broke college student with a broke college student girlfriend both working at this hobby to make it happen and we realize it will take a few years before it starts to pay for itself.

SO i digress

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Refr...item3f10537c80

Versus

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ranco-ETC-11...item35bf04ebd4

theres less the a $3 difference and both suit my needs so its solely on which one you think is best! everyone's entitled to their opinion id just simply like to know yours

[The Serpent Merchant]

Of the 2 I prefer the ranco.

I would buy one from Reptile basics: http://www.reptilebasics.com/ranco/johnson-controls/

[jfaria1891]

Of the 2 I prefer the ranco.

I would buy one from Reptile basics: http://www.reptilebasics.com/ranco/johnson-controls/

ok so thats ranco 1 johnson 0 .... and there the same price at reptilebasics because they charge an arm and a leg for shipping so that their prices can seem lower.

[SquamishSerpents]

I much prefer Herpstats. If you're planning on making any $ back from breeding, a good thermostat should be one of your primary investments.

Personally, I would NEVER use an on/off type in an incubator again. I have before, lost every egg.

[snakesRkewl]

Neither, proportional all the way for incubators, we use herpstats on our incubators and our racks.
Well except one rack that has a johnson controls A419 which imo is a way better quality thermostat than the Ranco.

[DooLittle]

I'm gonna vote Herpstat too.

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[jfaria1891]

just figured out the ranco is only 46 bucks if i wire it myself, so iv made my purchase ill use a ranco this season and then it will probably get demoted to my rack tstat and ill probably buy a VE-200 for next season

didnt refesh the page lol so i didnt realize so many people had commented =P thank you all, but i am indeed a broke college student, i would love to run my rack and incubator on $100+ proportional thermostats, but as of right now thats out of the question, good news is i dont plan on making money from breeding i plan on putting the money i make back into the hobby ie adding to my collection and upgrading equiptment so i should eventually have these fancy top notch thermostats =P

[RoseyReps]

I understand being broke. But I have to rant a second, again, not trying to be rude or anything here.
People don'to hesitate throwing down 100-200 for a big normal girl, or morphs. They buy multiple snakes for upwards of that knowing they got a good deal. But when it comes time to buy a thermostat, for your rack, you are putting the lives of all of your snakes (say 4 snakes at 100 each, $400..and that is way low for most starting collections) that's where they want to trim costs? It makes no sense to me. Then, even more silly is trimming cost on an incubator tstat, which in theory is the lives of say 2-3 clutches. Possibly over a thousand dollars in babies (not even touching on the fact they are lives.. just business perspective here) so they save <$80 on going cheap tstat. And then gamble a temp spike or failure...it just doesn't make sense to me. Don't pair until you have saved up for a good tstat. How long do you think it would take you to save up $100? If you already have 40. That's only $60 of saving. Put in $5 a week and you'll have the money in 3 months. 3 months...vs getting it now and risking all those babies.
again, I'm sorry..I wasnt trying to aattack you personally. I've just seen so many people recently going with a cheap tstat to save money ..I just can't imagine risking the lives of my babies over a $60 difference.

[Don]

If you can't afford a good thermostat, then how are you going to afford to take care of the babies? What about proper housing for the babies? What about a thermostat for their rack or cages? I'd hold off on breeding until you could afford to get the right equipment and afford to care for the offspring. It is the responsible thing to do. Those two thermostats may do the job, but the thermostat on the incubator is the most critical piece of equipment in the breeding process. I have two of them, one to back up the primary. It isn't the area to scrimp when breeding. Lots of things go wrong if you get temp spikes or failures.

[jfaria1891]

I understand being broke. But I have to rant a second, again, not trying to be rude or anything here.
People don'to hesitate throwing down 100-200 for a big normal girl, or morphs. They buy multiple snakes for upwards of that knowing they got a good deal. But when it comes time to buy a thermostat, for your rack, you are putting the lives of all of your snakes (say 4 snakes at 100 each, $400..and that is way low for most starting collections) that's where they want to trim costs? It makes no sense to me. Then, even more silly is trimming cost on an incubator tstat, which in theory is the lives of say 2-3 clutches. Possibly over a thousand dollars in babies (not even touching on the fact they are lives.. just business perspective here) so they save <$80 on going cheap tstat. And then gamble a temp spike or failure...it just doesn't make sense to me. Don't pair until you have saved up for a good tstat. How long do you think it would take you to save up $100? If you already have 40. That's only $60 of saving. Put in $5 a week and you'll have the money in 3 months. 3 months...vs getting it now and risking all those babies.
again, I'm sorry..I wasnt trying to aattack you personally. I've just seen so many people recently going with a cheap tstat to save money ..I just can't imagine risking the lives of my babies over a $60 difference.

your missinformed but you make a good point none the less. in my case i have only paid $245 for my 4 snakes and about 180 building the rack for them... and this season i only have one female thats ready and my only male is a pastel so at most im going to have 1 clutch and its going to be female to pastel with the best odds probably a $400 clutch at most with which money i plan to buy a VE-200 which i will use to run my rack and then when i need my incubator the VE-200 will run the incubator and let the ranco run the rack for the 60 some odd days with a zoomed tstat as a failsafe the zoomed i have now so ill already have that and it will make a perfect failsafe for the ranco. honestly i am insulted to think that you think i would honestly put my snakes at risk due to shear ignorance, i have done my fair share of research and after all this is a HOBBY rent and bills comes first or me and the snakes will be on the streets with nowhere to plug in my fancy VE-200 or my herpstat 8. im trying to safely make ends meet here and i feel like im succeeding i was only asking for advice on which seemingly equal one was better.

and there is my rant see i can do it too

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If you can't afford a good thermostat, then how are you going to afford to take care of the babies? What about proper housing for the babies? What about a thermostat for their rack or cages? I'd hold off on breeding until you could afford to get the right equipment and afford to care for the offspring. It is the responsible thing to do. Those two thermostats may do the job, but the thermostat on the incubator is the most critical piece of equipment in the breeding process. I have two of them, one to back up the primary. It isn't the area to scrimp when breeding. Lots of things go wrong if you get temp spikes or failures.

i have the rack and i have the bins and i have a cheap supplier for hoppers, i got this