What female for me will eliminate odds of normals?

[chelseawhelsee]

I have a bumblebee, and only solution I've come up so far is a super pastel. Is it because the pastel in the bee and double pastel in super leave no options for normals?
If that's right does that mean only either another spider (which I don't want to do) is my other option or am I getting it all wrong?

[Marissa@MKmorphs]

It's just the two pastel genes in the super that would make you not have any normals. Think of a super pastel as being homozygous for that co-dominant trait. Similar to how a visual albino iS homozygous for that recessive trait. When bred to a normal, These homozygous animals will create animals that are heterozygous for the gene they carry. So a super pastel x normal = all normals and an albino x normal = all normals het for albino.

I'm not sure if I helped any but I tried to explain it in a way that makes sense.


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[Marissa@MKmorphs]

SUPER PASTEL x NORMAL = ALL PASTEL!

Sorry it's late and I didn't catch that mistake lol


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[Simplex]

Edit:
Mistake corrected

[JaGv]

worldofballpythons.com has a genetic calculator that can be of good use to you

[chelseawhelsee]

@missriss- yeah that helps, thanks!
@JaGv- I thought originally my post had said (according to the genetic wizard from WOB) when I was saying how my solution so far has only been for super pastel, but yes!! I have been a bit obsessed with that genetic wizard...it's so very useful and is helping me learn a lot of new morphs too.
When results are with broken up links...that means no one has created it yet right?


What I've found is that only supers will remove odds of normals...since for example, a pastel lesser won't, but a BEL will.
I dont have the money to afford a super...darn. Haha

[JaGv]

@missriss- yeah that helps, thanks!
@JaGv- I thought originally my post had said (according to the genetic wizard from WOB) when I was saying how my solution so far has only been for super pastel, but yes!! I have been a bit obsessed with that genetic wizard...it's so very useful and is helping me learn a lot of new morphs too.
When results are with broken up links...that means no one has created it yet right?


What I've found is that only supers will remove odds of normals...since for example, a pastel lesser won't, but a BEL will.
I dont have the money to afford a super...darn. Haha

yeah anything super does seem to eliminate normals out of the odds. i think the broken links do mean that or someone hasn't provided a picture of them as an example. pastel lesser is double gene not super and the bel is a super. you can always produce a super yourself or go to a reptile show and find a cheap super

[chelseawhelsee]

Technically the supers are just homozygous recessives like albinos and pieds and they just visually show what would be "hets"...which is co-dominance?! Is that right!??
(it all suddenly became so clear! The bio class I took a year ago has suddenly emerged)
I now feel like this post was unneseccary if I am correct lol

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Hopefully I am right, but it is late haha cuz now I'm also realizing the same applies to the spider gene which gets carried out too...and now I'm trying to draw punnet squares I can't make sense of and confusing myself hahaha

[chelseawhelsee]

yeah anything super does seem to eliminate normals out of the odds. i think the broken links do mean that or someone hasn't provided a picture of them as an example. pastel lesser is double gene not super and the bel is a super. you can always produce a super yourself or go to a reptile show and find a cheap super

True, I am looking to not get a super pastel...and it seems that the super fires/lesser etc.are close to a grand so I will be making one myself in the future haha

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[JaGv]

it is said that a pair with the spider gene should never be bred because it is fatal. what bp morphs do you own? your at the right forum stick around and you will learn alot