Ball Bids Opinions?

[DanKReptiles]

So I was looking on my Facebook and noticed an ad for ball python bidding called Ball Bids. I started looking at the Facebook thinking what a great idea they had to make some cash while enjoying the hobby. It’s a business where you can bid on low to high end morphs for a fraction of the cost. Now as an (experienced) newbie in the hobby this is music to my ears. But the research I conducted came back all negative. The site and Facebook page kind of looks sketchy like maybe it could be a scam/ not legit. I found some evidence of possible illegal business actions. I don't know anything about the business side of this hobby but it seems like it isn't being done right from what I read. I saw a few other forums stating that the owners might not be taking care of the animals as well as they should. Possibly not worried about their well being and just in it for the dollar type deal.

So to the point,

What’s everyone’s opinion on BallBids.com? Has anyone here won a bid there? If so, how was the experience and how was the snake’s condition?

My opinion:
I don't feel there is enough evidence to incriminate them as a hurtful business in the reptile world. I WILL NOT be placing any bids until I am sure that these people are legit, and are in it for the hobby game instead of the money side. If I found or heard any proof of this business being neglectful to their animals or a scam, I would be more than happy to assist in bringing down the site. I hope there are some people here that dealt with the owners and gives some good reviews. But Bad are excepted just as well.

[Mft62485]

They don't possess any of the animals they sell. There is a whole thread on here of it if you search for ballbids. Its pretty bad in my opinion.


http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...light=ballbids

I found the thread.

[DanKReptiles]

Thanks. I was sure there was a thread about it already. Oops on the reposting :-)

[satomi325]

I posted in the original thread. But to sum it up, they are not to be trusted, nor will I ever do business with them.

[The Serpent Merchant]

Stay far far away... nothing good will come from doing business with penny auction sites. The general concept is a scam.

[Mike41793]

They set it up so you spend money to buy "bids". But whenever an item goes up for sale they have bots that bid too and always win. They dont have any actual products and they dont need to if their bots always win. They make money off of what everyone spends on "bids". Penny auction sites are always too good to be true lol.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Can a penny auction site work? Yes but to each their own, I personally like to support the breeders that produce their animal.

Now this one sorry but the owner is a liar and shady as they come so it would not matter what kind of business he runs, even if he became a breeder I would still stay away from him.

[1nstinct]

How can everyone say these negative things about ball bids? They are amazing I love what they are doing for the ball python/reptile world! I am 100000% against ball bids in every way, they are scam artist, they are destroying the ball python/ reptile world. They don't "have any" animals in their possession. I will not buy an animal from anyone who supports ball bids, IMHO anyone who supports ball bids buy selling animals to them is in this hobby for the wrong reasons. Ball pythons/reptiles are animals, they are not a iPod. Other auctions do it the right way, they produced or have the animals in their own collection, and are auctioning them off, and 90% of the time the final price gets close to what the market price of that perticular animal is, and not selling the animal for $4.34 for a pastel female ball python, the final price Is closer to $115(just an example). Ball bids=scam, how can you win a abduction against a machine that automatically bids every time with 1 second left on the clock?

[Dragoon]

They set it up so you spend money to buy "bids". But whenever an item goes up for sale they have bots that bid too and always win. They dont have any actual products and they dont need to if their bots always win. They make money off of what everyone spends on "bids". Penny auction sites are always too good to be true lol.

Any proof of the bots? You could shut them down with that. Even screen caps of 2 auctions with the same animal could do it.

[1nstinct]

I don't think anyone who would rather spend their money on quality than quantity(the people here on bp.net) will spend
Much time on ball bids site to do recon to see if they have the same animal pictured twice, or bots. I believe there are bots but I will not spend the time on the site, to find out because i do not want them to have the satisfaction of one extra person on their site daily, but that's my opinion.