Question RE: Cinnamon genetics.

[heylookitsjon]

I know at the beginning the Cinny was known as Cinnamon Pastel. To avoid confusion, the pastel was dropped at some point. So we know that Cinnamon Pastels are known as Pewters. Cool, got it.

Now when it comes to Bee's, they are, obviously, Spider Pastels. That's to be expected.

So my real question is this: Why are Cinnamon Spiders known as CinnaBees? Since Cinnamons are not inherently pastel, why do they get the distinction of being Bee? Shouldn't they just be....Cinnamon Spiders?

Someone enlighten me because it's been driving me crazy all weekend.

Also, I hope I made myself clear enough. I tend to ramble. Apologies!

[1nstinct]

I think who ever produced it first just decided to name it that. there are a few "bees" that don't have pastel in them: lesser bee, butter bee, honey bee. it just goes with naming them. i feel there is so much confusion in ball python naming that new people coming into the hobby get confused, i sometimes do. I remember explaining to someone at the LI reptile show in march, that pastel lesser, is not different that lesser pastel(of corse i double check with bp.net before i gave wrong information).

[mues155]

Maybe instead of getting hung up on the fact that a bumblebee has pastel in it, maybe it has to do with the snake just being a multi gene...like the double genes in bumblebees, lesser bees, cinna bees, etc.
Then you get into triples like killer bees, and so on.
Some have pastel, some dont. I think it might have been meant to stay with snakes of yellows with the spider gene, but has kind of expanded into most anything double gene and up with the spider gene.

But as stated when a morph is first created that creator kind of gets to name it whatever he/she wants.
It can be confusing indeed.

[PitOnTheProwl]

The "Bee" look is from the spider and the "prefix" is usually the color gene. As best as I can understand it.

[aalomon]

What Ive found is "bee" refers to spider + another gene. If there is a "bumble" in front, there is also pastel.

example:
mojavebee = mojave + spider
mojave bumblebee = majave + spider + pastel

However, the name might be different if the pastel gene combines with the third gene (besides the spider) to form a common name. ex: cinnibee going to pewterbee instead of cinny bumblebee
The other exception is when the combo already has a name, then it of course goes by that name. ex: lesserbee becoming queenbee instead of lesser bumblebee

This is just the trend Ive seen.

[heylookitsjon]

What Ive found is "bee" refers to spider + another gene. If there is a "bumble" in front, there is also pastel.

Well damn. This makes sense! I was getting hung up on the specifics an not looking at the broader world of "Bee"s.

Thanks to everyone for your input. It makes sense now.

(Which is helpful because I have a cinny female coming in Wenesday and she's going to be my first female of what I hope will be a breeding program in a few years!)



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