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    I still don't know what she is.

    If anyone remembers the clutch with the pastel woma in it, here is that 'super faded out lesser'....obviously, she is not just a lesser after all.
    Now, the problem is, I don't know whether she is a lesser-woma, or a lesser-woma-pastel. Someone was kind enough to share photos of their lesser-woma-pastel clutch with me, but I just couldn't see the pastel in them! I don't know.
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    It looks like the triple to me but I'm no expert
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    Re: I still don't know what she is.

    I honestly never seen the triple but with my eyes it looks to be a woma lesser. I would think the triple would be a little more faded and whiter in appearance.
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    Re: I still don't know what she is.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPythons View Post
    I honestly never seen the triple but with my eyes it looks to be a woma lesser. I would think the triple would be a little more faded and whiter in appearance.
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    I expect more blushing due to the pastel gene. It also doesn't have the coloration of a pastel lesser. I vote butter woma
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    I still think that young lady has some Woma in there somewhere...
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    Now see, I know diddly about it, but that peachy color near her belly makes me think pastel is involved.

    I suppose you can eventually breed her to a normal, and if she throws any pastels, then you know.

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    She is definitely, at least, a lesser-woma. The pastel lesser-womas I saw did not have a lot of fading and blushing, actually--that's why I am still not sure. Only someone who has actually seen some examples of this combination might be able to clue me in on what to look for, because I simply couldn't tell them apart.

    Here is a photo of her sire:


    Here is what her sire looked like as a hatchling:


    She's actually not nearly as light as he was, but does that necessarily mean she doesn't carry the pastel gene? What if it, for some reason, had a darkening instead of lightening effect...at least on the hatchling, if not the adult?
    It's also possible that the pastel gene could have disrupted the Woma pattern, which is why she has so many markings where a woma would not.
    Last edited by WingedWolfPsion; 06-10-2012 at 09:02 PM.
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    Wow! I really don't know, she's gorgeous. I would say at least lesser woma. Very nice!

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    Re: I still don't know what she is.

    I would defiantly say woma lesser i just got 4 in one clutch with my breeding being woma- lesser so no chance of pastal in my clutch and they all look little diffrent in variation.

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