To try to prove out, or not?

[h00blah]

If you've read my thread about my latest pickup, it is a female clown that is 66% pos het hypo. I already have future breeding plans for the clown female that did NOT involve hypo. Part of me wants to prove her out, but I really don't want to buy another male snake to prove her out. That's extra space, money, and another mouth to feed every week.

Would you go forward with your original plan? Or would you stop to try to prove her out?

Of course I could always get extremely lucky, and she ends up actually being 100% het hypo, and passes on that gene to the male holdback I want to keep to breed back to her . If that happens, I don't think I'd have anymore luck in this world! haha

[RobNJ]

If I bought any female 66% poss het anything, you'd better believe I'd be trying to prove her out...it only makes sense. Why go on down the line and produce 33% poss hets, then 16.5% poss hets, with no intent to prove her out when you could have just bought a plain old clown?

[interloc]

There are some who think that hypo may have markers that show through in hets. I jus picked up a normal het hypo female and shes definitely got some interesting markers. I dont have pics right now, but i may later today. My suggestion would be to compare her with other clowns and see if she seems "different" in any way. Male hypos, even het hypos arent that much either. You can buy one when shes ready to breed, and if she turns out to not be het then sell the stud. Just my .02! Hope her nose gets better fine (the sad face is im sad she looks that way)

[bubblz]

I don't know what your original plans are but I would eventually try and prove she's het. In my case better to know than not know. You can wait on one of her babies to breed back to her. Or stick with your original plan, maybe even find a DH male that's het hypo and something else that fits right into your plans.

Two for ones are always better . But you have time to figure it out and decide either way.

[Simple Man]

Breeding a nice high quality male Hypo or Hypo Pastel (POG) to her would end up with double hets or Pastel double hets at a minimum. Best case scenario you hit a Hypo or Pastel Hypo (POG) 100% het Clown. Both of those situations sound like wins to me but I'm partial to Hypo stuff in general Good luck with your decision!

Regards,

B

[h00blah]

Breeding a nice high quality male Hypo or Hypo Pastel (POG) to her would end up with double hets or Pastel double hets at a minimum. Best case scenario you hit a Hypo or Pastel Hypo (POG) 100% het Clown. Both of those situations sound like wins to me but I'm partial to Hypo stuff in general Good luck with your decision!

Regards,

B

Ah, I should have probably mentioned that I'm not too wowed by hypo combos, however i love black pastel and mojo hypos ... I just don't really want to make hypo stuff! I want to start producing new stuff that nobody has seen!!

I picked her up because she's already 700 grams (703 by my scale - 705 at my vets - to be exact . She's a good looking clown, and the bonus was that she was possibly het hypo. I was just going to advertise her offspring as pos hets, but sell them at non-het prices.. So if I breed a pastel to her, I would just sell the offspring as pastel het clowns, but mention the cool fact that they could POSSIBLY be het for hypo .

Great points guys. This is still a hard choice for me >_>...

POG sounds like a good start, but I reaaaally don't want to bring home anymore snakes =s... Maybe I can trade my female pastel het clown for a hypo morph male or something o_O... EUREKA

[RobNJ]

Het red axanthic hypo and honeybee would be high up on my list as potential mates.

[h00blah]

Honeybees would be sooo cool to have in the collection, but I don't really like spider clowns =p. Well.. I don't plan on producing spider clowns.. Just hypo something.. Maybe I should just get a really nice looking hypo male (no morph) just to prove out the clown... That way I'm not stressed with spending on a lot of money on another snake XD..

[MikeDE]

Lesser Ghosts are not tooo pricey anymore. That is what I would use. You have time on your side, I assume you are going to get her to 1500gr or so.

In the mean time get a male Lesser Ghost, Lesser Black Pastel Ghost, or Pastel Lesser Ghost on a payment plan or save up the cash and get him when she is closer to being ready. At least, that is what I would do.

If luck is on your side, you will have a Lesser Ghost Clown in no time.

[coldbloodaddict]

You should definitely try to prove her...I would try to prove her in the first breeding, so you know if future offspring will be poss. Hets.

The Hypo Clown is one of my favorite Clown Combos...Down the road it will make for some crazy crosses!

How sick would a Pastel Butter Clown Hypo be?!!!