Would like some opinion's on my pursuit of Killer clown's?

[Gbusiness]

Hey all,
I'm in the process of picking up a male pastel clown and a female pastel 100% het clown from garrick demeyer (royalconstrictordesign). My goal is to get Killer clown's.
He has some offspring that he produced in 2009. A super reduced pattern pastel clown and a killer clown. Both were from the same clutch. But, the thing is he breed a pastel het clown to a pastel het clown (I assume a pastel 100% het clown is the same bp as a pastel het clown? Just that some people drop the saying of the 100% over and over?)
What I want to know is? Are my chances in hatching a killer clown greater or less with a combo of a pastel het clownXpastel het clown? Or, is my chances even better with the pastel clown X pastel 100% het clown? If, I have the same chances with either combo's in my pursuit of killer clown's? Why not go the cheaper route and pickup the pastel het clownXpastel het clown?
Here are my choices for a pastel clown? Which do you all like if you had to choose for yourself?

$3500
$3500
$4500 brighter yellows and super reduced pattern

$4500 broken line
another view
All these pic's belong to garrick except the second picture of the reduced pattern male. That one belong's to midsouthmorphs.
TY Gerrad

[The Serpent Merchant]

The 100% bet has nothing to do with what is passed on to future generations. A snake that is het for clown will always have a 50% chance of passing that recessive gene on.

The 100% refers to what chance that snake has for carrying that recessive gene. So a 100% het for clown has a 100% chance of being het for clown. A 66% het clown has 66% chance for being her for clown. That means that there is a 44% chance that it is just a normal ball python. 100% hets or visual morphs are the fastest and most reliable way to produce visual recessives.

If you plan on working with recessive genetics (clown) I sugest you do some research on how they work. It is much more complicated than co-dom genetics like many ball python morphs.

[Annarose15]

A pastel clown x pastel het clown will give you better odds than pastel het x pastel het. Check out the morph calculator on worldofballpythons.com for combo odds questions.

[Royal Hijinx]

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[Royal Hijinx]

So, the Pastel Clown X Patel Het Clown gives you double the chance of hitting a Killer Clown.

[Gbusiness]

I kinda figured that it would be to easy if I did the pastel het clown X pastel het clown combo. Thank you jinx for clarifying thing's. Garrick also told me the break down.

[Royal Hijinx]

If you are going to spend that kind of cash, I would get the higher end one. The $4500 one does look nicer IMO.

[Gbusiness]

If you are going to spend that kind of cash, I would get the higher end one. The $4500 one does look nicer IMO.

You mean the broken line male (last two pic's?). Yea, he does have really nice yellow's actually. Garrick sent me some pic's from dec thru text. And, he looked really good. At, the time I was looking at the broken line clown and a solid stripe clown. The broken line clown had the deeper brighter yellows compared to the other. But, I was stuck on the solid line on the other pastel clown. I was going to choose the broken line pastel clown but someone influenced me to look toward a solid stripe pastel clown. I think it was a youtube video I watched about his pastel clown. How his had a complete line on it's back and made me then lean toward a solid line pastel clown.
I wouldn't mind choosing the broken line pastel clown male. But, I wonder if his broken line will pass down to the babies (which I know is kinda dumb ?)? Or, will each pastel clown baby have a chance at a solid stripe even thou the dad has a incomplete line? If, you look closely on the male? His neck is broken and near his rear end he has some pattern's that cover the line. I know it's weird not to choose him just because of a silly line,lol. Maybe I will consider him since he does have a exceptional yellow complexion. Thank you for me to reconsider him.

[RobNJ]

I'd definitely go with the middle one...unbroken dorsal, reduced pattern...very nice snake.

[Gbusiness]

Here's the pic of the broken line from dec thru text. He should be the one on the right. The solid line is sold.
website pic
Garrick today said he would send me a updated pic