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    Boa morph question

    Now, for whatever reason, my brain doesn't comprehend boa morphs as easily as ball morphs. Therefore, I have a question. I have a male Kahl strain albino. In the semi-near future, I'd love to get a female for him that will create the possibility of motley coral albinos. I've looked, and I guess there really is no "het coral albino", but if I got a female motley het albino from where one or both parents are coral albinos, would this be possible? Or will I have to get a visual coral albino in order to make them. I'm not even sure if I'm making any sense, but it's worth a shot.
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    I have not put the research into boas that would be necessary to give you an adequate answer, but I believe het coral albinos do exist. in fact I purchased one. it's my only boa, and I don't have any breeding plans, at least for quite some time, but I am curious to know what you find out.

    analgous to the ball python albino vs. lavender morphs (which are incompatible), I had thought that there simply several discrete albino strains, coral albino being one of them, but perhaps that was erroneous. if it takes a motley + albino to create a coral albino, I'm more ill-informed than I thought I was.

    edit: below is a section on coral albinos from Peter Kahl's website. it would appear that I was generally correct.

    ''The coral albino boas originated from one of my original hetero bloodlines I produced in 1990 or 1991. When I bred hetero's from this bloodline I noticed several of the babies were much more colorful and had a lavender coral color to them. I kept them back and as they grew there color intensified to almost a coral/lavender body color all over the animal.

    In summary, the coral-albino trait produces extra amounts of red and orange pigmentation that shows up along the flanks, saddles and in the red tail patterns. At the same time, most coral-albinos exhibit attractive pink heads and flecks all over the non red areas of the body as well. Like most line bred traits, not all coral-albinos, even in the same litter, will exhibit the same intensity of the coral trait.''
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    Well from what I've gathered, the coral albino is related to the Kahl strain albino, and they work together. I was hoping for a female motley het coral albino for my male Kahl albino to make baby motley coral albinos...heh
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    well motley is codominant so if you can lay your hands on a motley het
    coral albino female, you should hit the odds given the prolific numbers in boa litters. I am not sure what the outcome would be if you paired your albino to a het coral albino, but last time I checked the breeder's website, the sister to my het coral was still available.

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    What's the breeders website?
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    pm sent. hope someone else can help elucidate the genetics.

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    Thanks!
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    Re: Boa morph question

    Funny story...I was researching that exact pairing earlier today and have had no luck with it as of yet. I will be most pleased if someone can explain the specifics of it and if it would even work. (Worth a try! Lol) But for now I think I'll keep my focus on breeding Sharp Snows.


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    Basically from what I have gathered the coral is a poly-genetic trait the Kahl line. But here is great write up on it. be sure to read through all the links to coral
    http://www.boamorph.com/id32.html
    It kind is like the pastel lines. even non pastels from a line when breed together can produce great examples of those pastels.

    If you did a albino to motley het albino(coral) possible outcomes
    Motley albino(coral)
    Albino(coral)
    Motley het albino(coral)
    Noramal het albino(coral)
    BOAS
    1.0 Pastel Dream ghost poss 66% het sharp,1.2 Monstertail dh Sharp Sunglow,1.0 Monstertail het Sharp, 1.0 Hypo poss 50% het Albino 50% strip, 1.0 Mexican BCI, 0.1 Classic Columbia type, 0.1 Mexican BCI / Brazilian BCC cross, 0.1 Albino 25% Suriname cross, 0.1 Sharp 66% het anery, 1.1 66% poss Parahet, 0.1 arabesque poss jungle, 1.0 anery het sharp, 0.1 lemke/lucy pastel salmon 50% het anery 1.1 aney kenyan sand boa, 1.1 bullseye/pearl brb
    BALLS
    1.0 spider,1.0 fire, 1.0 ghost, 0.1 pastel, 0.1 pastel het ghost, 0.2 normal

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