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    fader question

    I 'm not understand how the gene work. Anybody can explain me ?

    And what we got from breed pastel fader to normal ?

    thanks

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    Re: fader question


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    Re: fader question

    So I'm bringing this back up to see if anyone can shed any more light on faders...

    My understanding is that it's a rather new gene that manifested itself during line breeding of lemon pastels at NERD-obviously from the video link I posted. Now where I'm getting kind of confused is that over the past year(ish), it seems like faders are popping up a decent amount. Has NERD sold off that many that it is just becoming a more readily available gene? Or is it something that has spontaneously popped up through similar breeding for other breeders? Or worse, is "fader" being abused and used to describe balls with severe blushings or aberrations in pattern?

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    I'd be interested in knowing, too. My pastel is from NERD and the last owner had a clutch that he sired with what appeared to be the fader gene.
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    I'm looking into this also due to my Cinnamon is supposed to have the fader gene... He's definatly not a "normal" cinnamon... If anyone finds a good explanation or a visual example/trait to look for please post here or pm me, thanks
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    Fader is an obvious mutation and it's being thrown around to describe a lot of snakes for sale these days that really don't possess the gene. So be careful...

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    ^^^ that's a niiiiice fader!


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    Quote Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles View Post
    Fader is an obvious mutation and it's being thrown around to describe a lot of snakes for sale these days that really don't possess the gene. So be careful...
    Nice!!

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    Re: fader question

    After some searching it looks to me like the Whiteout gene. Causes fading and destruction of the pattern.
    Mike

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    The fader gene popped out when Kevin was line breeding the Lemon Pastel stuff. There are certain subtleties that make the fader, the fader. Just because the snake is blushed or looks lighter than usual, doesn't mean it's fader. We must remember that BPs are insanely polymorphic... The "normal" cinnamon is just the average Cinny... There are better looking ones and worse looking ones... Haha! Kevin has explained to me the fader gene many times, and I am still trying to understand it fully.


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