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    Urgent, need help: Feeder breeder birthing complications

    One of my girls had one baby just fine, now she'd laying nearly listless (responds when I touch her), definitely more blood than their should be. I can't afford to take her to a vet, and the closest "exotics" vet is crap anyway, any better exotics vets would probably be too for her to make the trip.

    Anything I can do to help her? And if she ends up being beyond saving, anything I can do for the rest of the litter? I have another girl who only gave birth a couple days ago, so she could foster them no problem. I already gave her the lone baby, and she immediately took it and placed it with the rest of her litter, so that one will be alright at least.
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    Sounds like a breech birth going on, it sucks, I've lost a few girls to breech births
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    I seen what your talking about unfortunately. Mine ended up drowning in about 2 cm of water. I moved her to a seperate tank with a super small watering bowl she could reach since the bottle was way too high.... died 3 hours after it started

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    Yeah. I feel terrible, because I knew I shouldn't breed her, but she's got the most unusual fur - most of her litter mates were hairless, and she's got this silver-cream super soft fur - and she's always had a great temperament. A little bossy with her cage-mates, but never had a problem with me handling her.
    Its also so frustrating trying to find any info on rat birth complications, pretty much every result is from "rat people" forums, so its just 'take them to a vet', absolutely no info on anything that can be done at home.
    1.2 Normal BPs (Sekhmet, Tefnut, Vincent*)
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    0.1 Corn (probably corn/rat mix. Trouble)
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    1.0 Leopard Gecko (Little Dude*)
    0.2 Halloween Crested Gecko: (Thing1*, Thing2*)
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    *Long-term pet sitting, not actually mine

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    You can try to massage the baby back in to the uterus, rats have a Y to the birth canal and sometimes babies get stuck between or two come at same time.
    Just hold her by the tail and massage from right above the pelvic bone to the center of belly, sometimes you can even gently push the baby out.
    I have had three beaches, with only one mother that lived through it with her I massaged for five min and gave her a 15 min break, then massage and repeat. Once a baby can out I left her. Sorry for your troubles, good luck

    ~ Karl
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    Thanks for all your help guys. There's been no improvement, and I looked up her records - she's WAY older than I realized. She's always been super energetic, so I didn't realize she was already a year and a quarter. Just gotta set up my kill box. She keeps cuddling up to me when I handle her, but she's definitely super lethargic. At least the other new mom accepted the loner baby, we'll see if it survives or not.
    1.2 Normal BPs (Sekhmet, Tefnut, Vincent*)
    0.1 Coral Albino RTB (Eisheth)
    1.0 RTB (Cassanova*)
    0.3 Nicaraguan RTB (Type 2 Black Eye Anery w/Genetic Stripe. Eevee*, Daeva, A*)
    0.1 Corn (probably corn/rat mix. Trouble)
    1.0 Splendida King snake (Freebi)
    1.0 Leopard Gecko (Little Dude*)
    0.2 Halloween Crested Gecko: (Thing1*, Thing2*)
    1.1 Columbian BCC (Oolong, Pippin. Currently fostering with a friend)
    *Long-term pet sitting, not actually mine

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    Protein (cooked eggs, organic plain yogurt, etc.) and plenty of fluids to replace her fluid/blood loss and help her body recover might help her pull through. Rats are pretty resilient and she might surprise you yet. That sucks either way and sorry to hear that for you. Hope she makes it through.
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