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    Paradise Tree Snake!

    Hey guys. Skip to last paragraph for my question. Anyway I found this little bugga earlier today and probably saved him from the deadly hands of my friends who would've stressed it out to death by the end of the day, seeing how they were all so fascinated by it yet all so scared to touch it.



    Its a paradise tree snake, a beautiful specimen at that, although still young. I know its wild and probably has a bunch of parasites and it may be difficult for it to survive in captivity, but I really wish to keep it and give it a shot. I'm using an enclosure way too huge for it like it and am trying to make it like a cluttered forest, with as little fully clear glass as possible too to give it the best shot at adapting. Its all set up now and I think hes doing fine settling in. Of course its in its own quarantined room.

    I just want to pose a quick question with regards to feeding. Its usual diet is lizards and frogs with an occasional small bird and rodent, but it is not only rather difficult to get some of these feeders but more importantly I keep hearing of the parasites lizards and frogs can give snakes and that is something I dont like. I'm currently thinking of catching wild geckos and buying those small feeder frogs from local aquarium stores for him to eat once he's settled in, and I am very unsure of the sterility and safety of feeding him these.

    I was thinking of the option of using mice pinks if he would accept, but I was wondering about the nutritional differences and any potential issues with doing so since its a snake more specialized towards lizard and amphibian prey. Of course mice would probably be a decent diet which would keep it alive, but given that they usually eat small lizards and amphibians in nature and would probably be specialized for doing so, shouldn't I be trying to provide these for him? And wouldn't that be its own preferred diet as well? How do I balance its natural nutritional intake and requirements with its safety?
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    I could help ya, but I just wanted to comment on how beautiful of a snake that is! And how is it just sticking to the wall like that? Am I not seeing something?? Lol. Where do u live? Wish had these in the wild (California). Good luck with it!

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    Yeah he is a beaut. I think he was gripping on to the silicon and also pressing himself against the corner to get a better grip. They are by nature terrific and very quick climbers. He likes to sit in a ridge at the top of the enclosure now. I honestly have no idea, I thought the glass was sticky or something but I checked and its fine. But its such a long snake with so much surface area and so little weight, it probably can grip on to almost anything and stay.

    Oh and I'm in Southeast Asia. Theyre native to this region so its not extremely rare but not an easy find either.

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    Re: Paradise Tree Snake!

    Quote Originally Posted by ogdentrece View Post
    Hey guys. Skip to last paragraph for my question. Anyway I found this little bugga earlier today and probably saved him from the deadly hands of my friends who would've stressed it out to death by the end of the day, seeing how they were all so fascinated by it yet all so scared to touch it.



    Its a paradise tree snake, a beautiful specimen at that, although still young. I know its wild and probably has a bunch of parasites and it may be difficult for it to survive in captivity, but I really wish to keep it and give it a shot. I'm using an enclosure way too huge for it like it and am trying to make it like a cluttered forest, with as little fully clear glass as possible too to give it the best shot at adapting. Its all set up now and I think hes doing fine settling in. Of course its in its own quarantined room.

    I just want to pose a quick question with regards to feeding. Its usual diet is lizards and frogs with an occasional small bird and rodent, but it is not only rather difficult to get some of these feeders but more importantly I keep hearing of the parasites lizards and frogs can give snakes and that is something I dont like. I'm currently thinking of catching wild geckos and buying those small feeder frogs from local aquarium stores for him to eat once he's settled in, and I am very unsure of the sterility and safety of feeding him these.

    I was thinking of the option of using mice pinks if he would accept, but I was wondering about the nutritional differences and any potential issues with doing so since its a snake more specialized towards lizard and amphibian prey. Of course mice would probably be a decent diet which would keep it alive, but given that they usually eat small lizards and amphibians in nature and would probably be specialized for doing so, shouldn't I be trying to provide these for him? And wouldn't that be its own preferred diet as well? How do I balance its natural nutritional intake and requirements with its safety?
    pinkies would be fine (if you get it to eat them). but if you wan to geve him a more natural diet, think about breeding either green or brown anoles, here you can get them for about $7-8USD, but if you do this, those need smaller size crickets, so then that might be hard to find.

    if i had a snake that i found outside, i would just keep him outside in one of these:
    http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...-explorariums/
    and then i would just catch wild frogs and lizards to feed him, and decorate with native plants. that would be the easiest way. but if you want him a snake room, i would get him checked at the vet, and try to switch to pinkies and store bought insects, he might eat those too.

    and i wonder if they stick to things the way geckos do?
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    Very cool and very nice snake! I've never seen or heard of them before but I'm interested in them now. Good luck with the lil fellah.



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