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    What do we know about breeding Bananas?

    This is not a topic that I am all that familiar with, and I would be happy to know more. I understand that there is a remarkably high ratio of female-to-males hatched out with the banana morph?

    Are NO males being hatched out? Or just very few? I've read speculation that incubation temps may have something to do with it? Or is it something else?

    I'm open to hearing speculation, but would really be interested in first hand experience either from those who have seen banana clutches hatch. Does the same ratio appear in the combos, too?

    This is NOT a place to speculate about what the breeders know or don't know...what they're willing or not willing to share. This is not a court and it does more harm than good to the community as a whole to cause such distrust of reputable breeders with vague, random accusations.

    If a member of this site has a SPECIFIC charge to bring against a specific individual or business, this must be done properly in the Inquiry Forum. Full names must be disclosed and all known evidence laid out thoroughly so the issue may be properly addressed, rebutted and defended.

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    SO....educate me about breeding bananas!
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    dudette* i thought bananas came from trees..... weird XD
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    Re: What do we know about breeding Bananas?

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    dudette* XD
    Nice! I get so tired of being called "dude"! (My daughter does it all the time! )

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    Re: What do we know about breeding Bananas?

    Assuming coral glows and bananas are the same, this is what I herd from a reliable source.

    At least the coral glows, when a female coral glow lays eggs, you get the expected 50/50 ratio you would expect to get from a heterozygous animal and getting the expected 50/50 ratio of male to female.

    The problem comes when breeding male coral glows. When you breed a male coral glow to something, it appears all females are coral glows and all non coral glows are males. This could easily be explained by a sex linked trait, since males are assumed to be the same chromosome animal (unlike humans which the female is)

    The problem that kills the theory is that very rarely, the male coral glow will make another male coral glow. The ratio is so low, it doesn't really seem to make much sense with what we know right now.

    so thats all I know and we're stuck at "we don't have a clue whats going on" Unless someone has more info?

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    Re: What do we know about breeding Bananas?

    That doesn't eliminate the possibility that it is sex-linked. Linked genes do become unlinked, albeit in low percentages.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    The problem that kills the theory is that very rarely, the male coral glow will make another male coral glow. The ratio is so low, it doesn't really seem to make much sense with what we know right now.

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    males are being produced but in low numbers most of the time, though someone on BLBC produced 3.1

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    Re: What do we know about breeding Bananas?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    Assuming coral glows and bananas are the same, this is what I herd from a reliable source.

    At least the coral glows, when a female coral glow lays eggs, you get the expected 50/50 ratio you would expect to get from a heterozygous animal and getting the expected 50/50 ratio of male to female.

    The problem comes when breeding male coral glows. When you breed a male coral glow to something, it appears all females are coral glows and all non coral glows are males. This could easily be explained by a sex linked trait, since males are assumed to be the same chromosome animal (unlike humans which the female is)

    The problem that kills the theory is that very rarely, the male coral glow will make another male coral glow. The ratio is so low, it doesn't really seem to make much sense with what we know right now.

    so thats all I know and we're stuck at "we don't have a clue whats going on" Unless someone has more info?

    I have heard the same things, males do pop up from male bananas but it is very rare. The female bananas on the other hand produce normal ratios of male and female.

    Either way they are just an awesome morph

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    Assuming coral glows and bananas are the same, this is what I herd from a reliable source.

    At least the coral glows, when a female coral glow lays eggs, you get the expected 50/50 ratio you would expect to get from a heterozygous animal and getting the expected 50/50 ratio of male to female.

    The problem comes when breeding male coral glows. When you breed a male coral glow to something, it appears all females are coral glows and all non coral glows are males. This could easily be explained by a sex linked trait, since males are assumed to be the same chromosome animal (unlike humans which the female is)

    The problem that kills the theory is that very rarely, the male coral glow will make another male coral glow. The ratio is so low, it doesn't really seem to make much sense with what we know right now.

    so thats all I know and we're stuck at "we don't have a clue whats going on" Unless someone has more info?
    This is what I've been told as well.

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    Re: What do we know about breeding Bananas?

    Yes.....BG would really like to know what everyone here knows. Great thread Judy. Let's see if any of the "big dogs" chime in.

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    In sex link genes there are "mistakes". Like calico cats, which are all female, there will be the rare male calico born. Many have issues that cause them to be sterile, which would make sense seeing as there is a genetic hiccup to make a sex link come unlinked to allow the gene to work in the wrong sex.

    Then you also have the very rare calico male cat that is fertile. Perhaps the same is true of these possibly sex-linked snake genes also?
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