Spider wobble in crosses?

[BaierBalls]

We all know that all Spiders have a wobble to some degree. But in general, does the wobble get less noticeable in spider crosses as opposed to straight spiders?

[Mft62485]

I've got a bumblebee with no noticable wobble.

[OhhWatALoser]

it being a cross has no effect on the wobble, its just like regular spiders, some wobble a lot, some very little

[aalomon]

I've got a bumblebee with no noticable wobble.

Sadly, I have a bee who started spinning as soon as I brought him home but its getting better as he settles in. While outbreeding does not effect wobbles, in my experience stress or excitement does affect it. Mine have shown the most wobble right after theyve been moved or can smell food.

[Mft62485]

Sadly, I have a bee who started spinning as soon as I brought him home but its getting better as he settles in. While outbreeding does not effect wobbles, in my experience stress or excitement does affect it. Mine have shown the most wobble right after theyve been moved or can smell food.

I wish mine did have a slight wobble, it's kind of cool looking.

[aalomon]

Im hoping this guy calms down to a slight wobble. Those dont bother me at all, but when you come into a room and he goes from stargazing to falling over....always makes me cringe a bit even though hes a spider. Luckily as soon as he settled in it was more of an obvious wobble instead of full out spinning.

[WingedWolfPsion]

I'm one of those who doesn't think the wobble is terribly serious. It's part of the spider gene (also, the woma gene). It doesn't matter which other genes the snake has. If it has the spider gene, it may wobble--when young, when old, after a move, or just randomly, the wobble can develop at any point.

What we call a wobble is actually either a neurological or inner ear issue. The fastest way to check for a wobble is to turn the snake on its back, and watch its head. A normal ball python will right its head fairly quickly (unless it is balled up). A spider...well...there's a delay. That's a sign of wobble. Other more obvious signs include actual wobbling (tremor) when holding the head elevated and moving, holding the head tilted to one side, and spinning and corkscrewing. Wobble can be mistaken for symptoms of inclusion body disease, but spiders show far more awareness of their surroundings, and manage to get where they want to go. They also tend (generally) to be good eaters, and good breeders. Since reptiles that are stressed do neither, we can assume that this condition does not distress the animal.

[EverEvolvingExotics]

I think the wobble is one of the most over hyped things in ball pythons. I have no issues with breeders who refuse to implement them in their projects. I just find that spiders have one of the best personalities and feeding responses of BP morphs and they enhance all morphs IMO. They are one of the morphs that really made me say "WOW, I NEED THAT" back in the day when they were worth over $1000, and they still amaze me only being worth $100-200.

I don't think it gets worse or better through combo morphs, it's a risk you take. The majority of them live great lives under the right care. I refuse to not have one in my collection, my male is by far the best snake I have ever came into contact with. Out of all my snakes, he is the one that will never go if I had to get rid of my snakes...soooo maybe I'm a bit biased. Hahaha

[SpottedBOA]

My poor spider wobbles with excitement. He tends to do it more when he gets ready to eat.