Opinions on what morphs to get for breeding?

[Slashmaster]

Hi guys,

I'd love to start breeding BPs in the coming years. This is what's in my menagerie so far:

F Normal
F Albino
M Piebald
M Lesser
M Spider

In October there's going to be a big reptile convention right next to my town. I'm thinking about picking up some females (and maybe some more males). I currently have 3 rack space available.

What would you suggest picking up? If the choice was yours, what would you be breeding for?

I appreciate the insight. The combinations these guys make are overwhelming and amazing at the same time. I get hours of enjoyment out of playing with genetic wizards. It may take a while for everyone to get old enough/weigh enough for breeding but the wait is worth it!

Thanks!

[seeya205]

I would get a Het Pied or Pied female, Pastel female, Mojave female! I would breed the Spider to the Albino to make Spider Het Albinos and use a male to breed back to the female Albino to make Albino Spiders! Breed the Spider or Lesser to the Normal(Normals and Lessers/Spiders), Het Pied female to the Pied male(Pieds and Het Pieds), Spider to the Pastel female(Bees, Spiders, Pastels) and the Mojave to the Lesser(BEL). It is really whatever you like because after all, you are the one that has to look at them everyday and take care of them!

[sookieball]

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Agree with these choices.
Your a little male heavy, so hope you plan on getting all females.

Is personally go for double co-dom morphs.
If your budget allows that is.

And definately shoot for a double combo pied as an outcome of pairing (combo het pied) x your pied male.

Good luck.


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[Slashmaster]

I would breed the Spider to the Albino to make Spider Het Albinos and use a male to breed back to the female Albino to make Albino Spiders!

Oh wow, that's a good idea! I didn't even think of that.

Mojave to the Lesser(BEL)

This is also a good idea. I really like BELs.

And definately shoot for a double combo pied as an outcome of pairing (combo het pied) x your pied male.

Something like, breeding a F Bumblebee to the Pied, since those would all be het pied? That's a good idea also, didn't think of that.


Albino


Normal


Piebald


Lesser


Little Spider

Sorry for the horrid photo quality.

[SilverDemon]

It really is up to you (as it's been said, you're going to be the one looking at them!). But I add my vote to getting three females, you're kinda male heavy.

Can't go wrong with Pastels, they brighten up anything and are within any budget.

One issue with spider or bumblebee pieds: they only have pattern on their heads. If you like pied patterns, that would be a no-no.

Personally, I'd get a Mojave and a Yellowbelly to pair with the Pied and one day make White Golds and Pumpkin Pieds, respectively. The mojave also lets you make the BEL with the lesser.

Again, though, it's all up to you, but Mojaves, Pastels, and Yellowbellies are all well within most budgets, and if you have money left over, you can invest it in another rack so you have room for more! (I'm totally an enabler.)

[Slashmaster]

White Golds and Pumpkin Pieds

Didn't even know those existed... I'll go look them up and see what makes them

invest it in another rack so you have room for more

Already have that planned! I got a 12-tub rack coming in the mail... figure I'll have to put held back growing babies somewhere so might as well get room for adults now.

Thanks for your opinion! I gotta see what these Pieds are now..

[Redneck_Crow]

Oooh, the possibilities!

I'd get a female het pied if you're on a budget. Or a female pied if you're not. A female het albino if you're on a budget, or a female albino if you have a little more to spend. That way you could work with the recessives right away. With a female pied you could make 100% het pied spiders or lessers and have some good things to build on further down the road.

With a male lesser, it would be a shame not to get a female something or another in the BEL complex so that you can make white snakes. Mojo, butter, lesser--you've got several choices in there. Double codoms would be great if you have the bucks for it. Since you're working with limited rack space it would give you the most bang for each breeding without producing a lot of normals. A female BEL could crank out some great hets to cross back into pied, and it could make some nifty things crossed with your spider, and no normals. And BELs with your lesser. A female mojo, lesser, or butter with an additional pastel gene would be very versatile.

The biggest hole I see in your genetic deck so far is no pastels. Those mix well with so many things. A female pastel can get you bumblebees, pastel lessers, pastel het pieds. A female pastel yb would give you all sorts of options if you want to spring for it. A female superpastel would be awesome. Pastel het pieds, bumblebees, pastel lessers, and no normals.

With your limited space, I wouldn't get any more males until I had my females bought and added some cage space for more females.

Since you only have 3 slots open at the moment if it were me picking 3 snakes, I'd go for

1) Female pied; het pied would work well if it carries another useful gene like pastel, a BEL codom, or spider.
2) Female BEL or a pastel combo with one of the BEL complex morphs.
3) Female superpastel or pastel yb.

and I'd be working on getting more cage space and putting a female albino and a female cinnamon or black pastel on the "to do" list for later on. Once you start producing some offspring from your initial breeding groups you can trade for a bigger variety of females. You can replace your original spider and lesser male with a double gene male you've produced on down the road and have even more to work with. Those are just my thoughts on it. You know what you like and there really is no wrong thing to do--just choices.

[SilverDemon]

White Golds are, to put it simply, Mojave Pieds. Think antique gold and white.

Pumpkin Pieds are Yellowbelly Pieds. They have a deep, vibrant orange to them that a lot of people find attractive.

Just remember, whatever you get: you're going to be the one looking at these snakes for however many years. Pick ones you think are pretty!