well i went to the local appliances store today and got a gutted mini fridge for $20 that i have planned to make a incubator out of just going to take it slow since i dont have any use for it at the moment. well i had to run by the local reptile store to grab some water bottles for my rats i really need to build a rack for them but thats a different story so anyways i was talking with the people that works there and talking to them about the incubator i was going to build and he was like i have a hovabator thats been used but still works and it isnt one of the cheap ones either so i asked him how much he wanted for it and he said he would take $40 for it so i finally got my first real incubator. yay now i can start putting my males and females together. also has any1 used some stuff it looks like a brown brick i cant think of the name of it but he said it works great i havent ever heard of it for incubation instead of the white stuff i see all over here