Question about multiple sire's

[GR8DANE]

when people mate more than one male to one female, what are they striving for?, like spider and pinstripe bred to a pastel female. is it possible for the clutch to be fathered by both, as in; pastels, spiders, pins, bees, lemon blasts...or is it possible to double father an egg, as in; spinner blasts????

i hope i am making sense

please help

[LadyOhh]

There is no way for a double father to happen in one egg (one baby).

You can have multiple fathers in the clutch (Lemonblasts and Bumblebees), but you cannot have multiple combinations like your Spinnerblast theory.

[GR8DANE]

gotcha, i had a feeling someone would say exactly wat you said, i wasnt 100% on the subject so i figured i'd ask

[Serpent_Nirvana]

when people mate more than one male to one female, what are they striving for?

I think what you're striving for is that exceedingly long-shot hope that you'll get the "best" mega-combo from each sire, and/or are being kinda indecisive. For example, I'll probably put my lesser girl to my spinner and bumblebee males this year, because I can't quite decide if I'd rather shoot for queenbees or lesser spinners, and there is a teeny part of my brain that's gonna hope that somehow the most potent of both males' sperm gets through to give me one of each. However, I am NOT hoping that I get a lesser spinner blast because it just isn't possible*. Only one of the two sires can fertilize any given egg, as Heather said.

Another reason you may want to use more than one male is if you want to cover your bases in case your first-choice male doesn't quite get the job done.


* Would it be possible, though, to get a chimera of both sires? By which I mean that each egg would be independently fertilized, then fuse?

[ed4281]

I don't understand why people do multiple sire's. I would think that it would just increase your chances of hatching normals. The only way I would ever do it is if the female was a super of some sort.

[snakeman13]

I don't understand why people do multiple sire's. I would think that it would just increase your chances of hatching normals. The only way I would ever do it is if the female was a super of some sort.

just the opposite is going to happen.
the more males that produce viable eggs, the less normals you will get.

[llovelace]

I don't understand why people do multiple sire's. I would think that it would just increase your chances of hatching normals. The only way I would ever do it is if the female was a super of some sort.

I did it with my pastel female to a spider, pin, pastel. I hit great odds.

[OhhWatALoser]

when people mate more than one male to one female, what are they striving for?

the best possible chance of the female laying eggs, if one male doesn't get the job done, others will.

and your odds of normals don't change if they are all heterozygous morphs, like in his above example spider n pin x pastel, assuming both males have an equal chance of fertilizing eggs your odds would be

* Would it be possible, though, to get a chimera of both sires? By which I mean that each egg would be independently fertilized, then fuse?

from what I understand, no, since theory is chimeras are twins inside an egg that merge and only 1 sperm can fertilize one egg. If they are caused by different egg fusing... I guess it possible but your looking at a bigger long shot than breeding a quad het to a quad het. lol

[RandyRemington]

In addition to the already mentioned reason of increasing your odds of good eggs (assuming any single male might have fertility issues) I've done it in the hopes of getting a split clutch with different combos that would otherwise take two years. I want to see what the mojave chocolate cinnamon looks like and also what the mojave super chocolate looks like so I put both a chocolate male and a cinnamon male with my chocolate mojave girl. Unfortunately my female is small and I'll be lucky to get any eggs much less the perfect split clutch hitting the odds with each of two fathers. But that brings up another possible reason, might a borderline female be more likely to produce after more breeding?

[th3jok3r]

i take it this is not a good idea to do with a recessive gene x dominant gene or codom... ex a male lesser and a male clown to my female mojave......