What would you throw at my boys?

[sookieball]

So I have a male pied, pastel, and butter.

Im gonna be in the market for either a homozygous recessive to pop me out some double hets.

Or a double co-Dom combo morph to the mix.

I have a mojo im pairing with my butter hoping for my BEL
And a bumble bee shooting for queen bee or killer bees.... what ever pops out ill be happy.

I was thinking recessive
to go for genetic stripe, albino(possibly lavender)
Axanthic, caramel, or orange ghost.

And for co-Dom's
I like anything with pastel, pin, spider, Mojave, lesser/butter, cinnamon,

Just about everything under 1500....

But im kinda thinking I should shoot for double het clown/pied...

What would you throw in for future plans?

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[Kymberli]

And a bumble bee shooting for queen bee or killer bees.... what ever pops out ill be happy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're pairing a Bumble Bee with your male Pastel and Butter, you would not have a chance at Queen Bees. You'd have a chance at Killer Bees and Butter Bees..

I'm still learning about morphs though, so I could be mistaken.

[aalomon]

Actually bumblebee x butter could get you a queen bee. I think the odds are 1/8?

As to your breeding plans, have you looked at the enchi pied?

[sookieball]

Yeah butter x bumble bee is a chance at queen bee.
Pastel x bumble bee is a chance at killer bee.

Hmmm... enchi pied? Sounds awesome! But I would need to find an enchi het pied... any thoughts on where to find?

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[Kymberli]

Well, the reason I am asking is because the World of Ball Pythons morph lists has the Queen Bee described as a Lesser Pastel Spider, which I was already familiar with along with the Killer Bee. However, Butter Pastel Spider is listed simply as a Butter Bumble Bee. They seem to have subtle differences, most prominent being the amount of yellow.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...le-bee-butter/

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/queen-bee/

Please excuse me, I'm just trying to figure this out.

[Kinra]

Well, the reason I am asking is because the World of Ball Pythons morph lists has the Queen Bee described as a Lesser Pastel Spider, which I was already familiar with along with the Killer Bee. However, Butter Pastel Spider is listed simply as a Butter Bumble Bee. They seem to have subtle differences, most prominent being the amount of yellow.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...le-bee-butter/

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/queen-bee/

Please excuse me, I'm just trying to figure this out.

Butters and Lessers I believe are pretty much the same morph. I don't have a lesser to compare to my butter yet, but they seem extremely similar.

Edit: The subtle differences you are seeing are probably more from the individual animal than the actual morph.

[sookieball]

Butters and Lessers I believe are pretty much the same morph. I don't have a lesser to compare to my butter yet, but they seem extremely similar.

Edit: The subtle differences you are seeing are probably more from the individual animal than the actual morph.

I honestly feel they are the same.
BUT there alot of differences in some combos so I still kinda feel they are SLIGHTLY different. Like black pastels are slightly similar to cinnamons

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[snakesRkewl]

VPI Lesser breeding VPI Butter


OP: Here's what I'd get

Pastel hypo(pog) for the pied
Pastel Butter for the butter
Pastel males are pets....

[sookieball]

VPI Lesser breeding VPI Butter


OP: Here's what I'd get

Pastel hypo(pog) for the pied
Pastel Butter for the butter
Pastel males are pets....

That's a nice butter! Like her more than the lesser!
Dude I love my pastel boy! He's the sweetest thing and
he is 1000grams and brighter than when I got him.
His yellows really held
I also love that his front half is busy and the back half is reduced pattern.

But he was also my second snake. So he's a pet... but a favorite.


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[VicShell]

enchi pied thats the way they are off the hook sexy i think satan over at nerd has some for sale but could be wrong good luck with whatever way you decide to go