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    Some input on if this egg will survive or not

    It's really a long story, and I'll keep it short: My snakes are currently living with a friend of mine because I can't have them where I live now. (it's very temporarily)

    My friend however, is no snake-person, she likes them, but knows nothing. So I drop by every weekend to clean and feed.

    I've been trying to breed ball pythons for the last 2-3 years with no sucsess. Then last autumn I put my mojave male with my first beloved ball Cleo. I saw no signs of her being gravid though, and I started to give up. And then from January I had to move them to my friend, so I didn't get the chance to see them as often as I'd like to.

    Yesterday was feeding day, and when I opened her hide I saw she had laid eggs. 5 of them. I gently took her off them, and saw they were all moldy and had a nasty smell. I'm so bummed over this.
    And one of them had a really funky green color on it, is that even normal?




    Then there was 1 egg that seemed "better" than the rest. A small hope inside me wants it to survive. But I know it's probably not gonna happen. It already has a smell, but it's not slimey or moldy like the others. When I gently press it, it feels like the liquid inside is still liquid, and is not hard like the rest was. I've candled it, and saw a few blood veins.

    But what do you guys think? what are the chances for this egg to turn into a baby?


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    Hard to answer not knowing more!

    Did you candle those eggs?

    How old are those eggs?

    What is the temp and what is the humidity?

    If they candle good and are toward the end of maternal incubation than yes they could make it, however if this is the beginning than let's face it, they look VERY bad.

    If the substrate use are some kind if absorbent pellets, I would bet they just absorbed all the humidity.
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    Re: Some input on if this egg will survive or not

    It looks like it is too late to me, but it wouldn't hurt to try and incubate the best-looking egg if it has veins.
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    I didn't candle those I threw away, since they were in that horrible condition.
    I only candled the one on top of the box, and it had a few veins in it. But it is also awfully a lot of yellow, and it's not as "see-through" as I would have hoped for.

    I don't know exactly how old they are, but they must be somewhere between 10-5 days. They had no contact with the pellets in the box since my snake had pushed the pellets away, but she had laid them inside a hide, so the air must have been pretty bad in there (considering she also cramped herself in there with the eggs that started to mold)
    I'm pretty sure the eggs have the dents in them because it's been too dry, but I don't quite understand the mold and odd colors. Will dry eggs start to mold and smell?

    I've placed the egg in a plastic-box with damp vermeculite and the temperature is about 28. I've been breeding different geckos over the years, so I know the vermeculite is okay damp.

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    Re: Some input on if this egg will survive or not

    Quote Originally Posted by CamStatic View Post
    I didn't candle those I threw away, since they were in that horrible condition.
    I only candled the one on top of the box, and it had a few veins in it. But it is also awfully a lot of yellow, and it's not as "see-through" as I would have hoped for.

    I don't know exactly how old they are, but they must be somewhere between 10-5 days. They had no contact with the pellets in the box since my snake had pushed the pellets away, but she had laid them inside a hide, so the air must have been pretty bad in there (considering she also cramped herself in there with the eggs that started to mold)
    I'm pretty sure the eggs have the dents in them because it's been too dry, but I don't quite understand the mold and odd colors. Will dry eggs start to mold and smell?

    I've placed the egg in a plastic-box with damp vermeculite and the temperature is about 28. I've been breeding different geckos over the years, so I know the vermeculite is okay damp.
    Mold happens because the eggs were not fertile (slugs). The one with veins can get mold on it from the other eggs, but can be wiped off if it happens. I hope this helps, and good luck.
    Last edited by Wh00h0069; 05-16-2011 at 08:32 AM.
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    Re: Some input on if this egg will survive or not

    Quote Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    Mold happens because the eggs were not fertile (slugs). The one with veins can get mold on it from the other eggs, but can be wiped off if it happens. I hope this helps, and good luck.
    Oh! Is that a certain always-thing?
    Saying if the eggs WERE fertile, the mold wouldn't happen, they would just dent in in that situation?

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    And with the egg I'm trying to save - should I try to... uh.. clean it? In case it has mold on it? The egg feels a little wet, like with bad eggs that starts to swet.

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    (28 celsius btw, which is about 82 degrees)

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    Eggs that were fertile can grow mold if they die. I'm afraid your substrate (the pellets) is the reason why these eggs didn't make it. No matter how hard a female tries to maintain a proper humidity for her clutch, if the substrate isn't providing adequate humidity levels then she doesn't have a chance. Drying out would cause them to die and rot.

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    Even if that egg was still good, incubating at 82 is on the low, low, end. Somewhere I read 84 is considered the lowest you could safely incubate ball python eggs.
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