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    The Pros and Cons between Live and Froze!????????????

    Is Frozen Rat Really Healthier Than Live?
    One of Hong Kong breeder said that do not feed a live cause your snake will die. And always judge me feed a live. How annoying!?
    Can anyone tell me the true of it !??? Plz!!!

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    There is no difference in nutrition between feeding live and frozen.
    I only feed frozen, so I can't give any input on feeding live other than it's a personal choice and thousands of people feed live successfully without incident. I choose to feed frozen simply because (personal reasons don't make fun of me lol)
    1) I feel bad for the rat...yes pathetic I know..
    2) I am terrified that my snake will get injured
    3) Much easier, I just buy them in bulk and store in my freezer, thaw out as needed
    4) I don't have to explain to my 4 y/o son about the magic disappearing "pet" rats...
    5) It gives just as much benefit to my snakes as feeding live, without the anxiety I'd get

    Like I said, I have nothing against live feeders, I personally don't do it because it's much easier on me, but to answer your question: a live rat, a dead rat, is still a rat.
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    Re: The Pros and Cons between Live and Froze!????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by daji_ View Post
    Is Frozen Rat Really Healthier Than Live?
    One of Hong Kong breeder said that do not feed a live cause your snake will die. And always judge me feed a live. How annoying!?
    Can anyone tell me the true of it !??? Plz!!!
    If snakes died from catching and killing their own live prey, then how is it our world is covered in beautiful wild snakes?

    There IS a chance that a live rodent can injure a snake with a hard bite in just the wrong place. (Face and eye are the most vulnerable to a quick defensive bite) But the horror stories you see of snakes half-eaten by their "prey" are NOT from responsible feedings. That only happens when a starving, dehydrated rodent is left alone for hours or days at a time with a snake who has no interest in eating.

    The fact is, out of the millions of live feedings done every day among breeders and keepers around the world, only a minute fraction ever end up as serious injuries. And I've NEVER heard of a live rodent killing a snake during a responsibly conducted feeding.

    There is ALSO a risk of killing or making your snake sick with feeding frozen prey. If it is not thoroughly thawed, the partly frozen insides of the prey animal can make your snake seriously sick. Also, prey that has been heated too much could cause interior burns, and cooked meat can also make the snake sick.

    There is risk and consequence in everything we do. Our responsibility as keepers is to understand those risks and do all we can to minimize them. Decide what works best for you and do your best to do it right.
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    Re: The Pros and Cons between Live and Froze!????????????

    Tell your HK breeder that I've fed over 15K live prey items over the past 6 years, and amazingly, all my ball pythons are still alive!

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    Re: The Pros and Cons between Live and Froze!????????????

    Oh boy here we go

    One of mine eats thawed and the other eats live. The one that eats thawed has done it since day one and i will leave him on it; and the other that eats live has done it to since day one and I will continue. I watch closely and would never leave the live prey and my snake alone or leave in its enclosure over a period of time and even feed in there...well because there is loose substrate

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    I feed all 45 of my snakes live down to hatchlings. I've never had a problem. Ever. Not one.

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    The biggest pro of feeding live is that they are more readily taken than f/t.. though numerous snakes take f/t easily every meal their entire lives.

    A second big pro to feeding live, if you breed your own feeders, is availability. It's there and ready to go. If you don't breed your own, then a LACK of availability is a big con.

    Other than that, F/T has plenty of pros that make it my #1 choice
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    Re: The Pros and Cons between Live and Frozen!????????????

    I cap the photo and show him.
    He said I have no enough the basis of argument.
    I dun know why he always post a lot of the Ball Pythons in Captivity !???
    He done everything just want the people trust him and buy the frozen from him!?
    He is a really merchant in HK. Always lie the people.
    Always said his snake all come from the VPI , is the best!???
    And the best snake each cost over 30% !??? How horrible !?
    As I know that VPI won't let the people order the snake cause that guy is a HK Exclusive Distributor !??
    I dun think a profressional will do this !??


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    Omg what happened to that beautiful snake? That's awful. Was that a shipping issue?

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    Re: The Pros and Cons between Live and Froze!????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Homegrownscales View Post
    Omg what happened to that beautiful snake? That's awful. Was that a shipping issue?
    HK breeder said the snake dead of feeding live !???

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