Vanilla???

[TnT Reptiles]

First off I will say that I don't know much about them and have only seen 2 in person. The only marker that I am aware of is the faded head. Is there any other traits that I should be looking for??

I have a CH female that I acquired in a package a few years back that I am breeding this year. She looks like a Vanilla compared to photos I have seen posted. Again I am no expert on these and am just looking for some opinions from those who have them.

I have bred her to a sugar so I don't know if the results will be conclusive. Has anyone produced a Vanilla sugar??

Any input is appreciated!!!

Here's a couple pics , let me know what you guys think.

[axeman569]

I couldn't tell you if it is a vanilla, but I can tell you she is nice. Good luck with her.

[ace_singapore]

Nice reduced pattern snake, but not sure if it's a vanilla or.....

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

It's hard to tell but I always tell people with a light ball like that to first breed it to a fire.

If you get cremes, its a vanilla.
If you get black eyed leucys, it's a fire.
If you get nothing but a fire or two and some light normals, it's just a light normal.

[Serpent_Nirvana]

It's hard to tell but I always tell people with a light ball like that to first breed it to a fire.

If you get cremes, its a vanilla.
If you get black eyed leucys, it's a fire.
If you get nothing but a fire or two and some light normals, it's just a light normal.

See, I also have a super-light "dinker" girl (mine looks more fire than vanilla, though, IMO) and even though it seems like a good idea in a way, I was reluctant to breed her to a fire male. I was concerned that if I got all fires and normals, I wouldn't know whether she had failed to prove out, or whether some of the fire babies got the fire gene from the her and I just whiffed on the leucistic. Each egg only has a 1:4 chance of hitting the combo, so it'd be easy enough to miss ...

I bred mine to a bumblebee -- my logic was that that way, if I get more "fire" looking things I know they must've come from her, and even though those combos aren't screamingly obvious like a vanilla cream, I think they would be obvious enough compared to their sibs to suggest that the female was "something."

I couldn't find a picture of a sugar or calico vanilla, but I would think it would be about the same -- maybe not extreme enough to pick out without knowing the breeding, but should be obvious enough compared to its sibs (I would think).

Of course, the problem with my method is that if she does prove out as something, I'm going to have to do some more breedings to figure out what ... But that's part of the fun

I like your gal, though -- she reminds me a lot of one of my smaller "normal" female (which a buddy of mine saw and thought that she looked like a vanilla ... )

[dembonez]

thats a big one =P

[TnT Reptiles]

Thanks for the input guys!!

She is now being paired with a fire which should be more conclusive.