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Possible wobble in pastel?/
So at my work place we have a baby pastel ball, and it started to get sick, and it was moving its head really weird in the air, the vet didnt know what it was and thought maybe it was IBD, possibly.
in any case they gave us an antibiotic for the little guy to inject under the skin. ANYWAYS long story short after two months, it still moved his head awkwardly and it struck me, that the way he was moving his head seemed exactly like a video i seen of a spider with "wobble".
so now my question is, can that be possible?
ps. the little guys eats fine, just has problems shedding.
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If he was previously sick, he could have permanent damage, also yes there are some animals that wobble that are not related to spider what so ever, tho pretty rare.
so yes it is possible (obviously since your seeing it :p)
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From my little bit of research on this some are saying that it is just something a snake can have. "A neurological disease that is non-life threatening." Elevated stress can increase the severity of their wobble however over time the wobble may go away entirely or become almost unnoticable.
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
 Originally Posted by Slyther83
From my little bit of research on this some are saying that it is just something a snake can have. "A neurological disease that is non-life threatening." Elevated stress can increase the severity of their wobble however over time the wobble may go away entirely or become almost unnoticable.
Yah. I think maybe that it was an offspring of a pastel to spider and the spider possibly had wobble and passed it down to the babies.
In any case, hes a cuties, REALLY small, though he eats. im contemplating on bringing him to my home. think thats a good idea? i just donot think he would get the attention he deserves where he is now ..
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
 Originally Posted by BlueCinder
Yah. I think maybe that it was an offspring of a pastel to spider and the spider possibly had wobble and passed it down to the babies.
then that would be the first case of this happening in 12 or so years, unlikely the wobble is related to the spider gene at all.
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
 Originally Posted by BlueCinder
Yah. I think maybe that it was an offspring of a pastel to spider and the spider possibly had wobble and passed it down to the babies.
In any case, hes a cuties, REALLY small, though he eats. im contemplating on bringing him to my home. think thats a good idea? i just donot think he would get the attention he deserves where he is now ..
Wobble just makes them more unique and that would be great for you to take it in and give it a home.
That being said, if I were you I'd just double check and make sure that it isn't IBD before you risk infecting your other snakes.
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
 Originally Posted by Slyther83
Wobble just makes them more unique and that would be great for you to take it in and give it a home.
That being said, if I were you I'd just double check and make sure that it isn't IBD before you risk infecting your other snakes.
I second this. It would be terrible if you infected any other snakes.
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
 Originally Posted by dragonboy4578
I second this. It would be terrible if you infected any other snakes.
Yah im really not willing to chance, ive been contemplating is all.
i guess i got my answer, ill just have to take it upon myself to make sure this little guy is doing good
what are your guys' opinions on what maybe wrong?
he has good control of his head when its straight on looking but when he looks up his head starts to go everywhere, problems shedding,
temps are 85-90.
humidity is 60-65 %
he eats ok.
the vet is puzzled as to what it could be... but now im second guessing myself. and worried that it actually is IBD.
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
thought maybe it was IBD, possibly.
in any case they gave us an antibiotic for the little guy to inject under the skin.
That part right here would make me re-evaluate using that vet if he thought IBD was the culprit I do not see why he would prescribe antibiotics (would not help anything in that case).
I don't understand why a vet would prescribe an antibiotic without any diagnosis either 
Anyway do other animals aside from spiders wobble? Yes while rare it can happen, neurological issues can also be caused by things such as the animal being over-heated for a certain amount of time, toxic exposure etc.
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Re: Possible wobble in pastel?/
 Originally Posted by Deborah
neurological issues can also be caused by things such as the animal being over-heated for a certain amount of time, toxic exposure etc.
This would be my first thought when one sees a snake "wobble" like a spider.
I've seen what overheating a snake can do, it's very much like corkscrewing and wobbling in a spider.
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