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What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?
Heres my list, I tired to group them by alleles, I guess i also need to know which are dominate traits also or weird in some way. I thought the green pastel laid on the same alleles as some but i don't remember. I made this list a long time ago, I don't even remember what some of them are lol. I gotta do some more research, but if you guys see anything missing, alleles, dominate, ect. lemme know. I want a perfect list as to the best of our knowledge
like anyone got a final call on what hypos are compatible? blue or green compatible with normal hypo?
Cinnamon Pastel
Black Pastel
Butter
Mojave
Russo Het Leucistic
Phantom
Mystic
Lesser
Mocha
Special
Daddy Gene
Fire
Sulfur
Yellow Belly
Goblin
Orange Belly
Spector
Whirlwind
Lavender Albino
Caramel Albino
Pastel
Albino
Lori
Axanthic
Piebald
Clown
Desert Ghost
Genetic Stripe
Tri-Stripe
Hypo
Green Ghost
Blue Ghost
Burgundy
Ultramelanistic
Toffee
Patternless
Black Lace
Black Head
Black Opal
Orange Crush
Peach
Congo
Black Axanthic
Enchi
Granite
Sable
Vanilla
Hidden Gene Woma
Chocolate
Paint
Spotnose
Het Red Axanthic
Red Stripe
Disco
Epic
Orange Dream
Black Belly
Calico
Garcia
Het Puma
Het Highway
Sentinel
Lace
Green Pastel
Huffman
Calico
Whitesmoke
Pinstripe
Shatter
Marble
Ghi
Woma
Cajun
Candy
Crider
Goldfinger
Lace
Lemonback
Leopard
Napalm
Puzzle
Reaper
Sugar
Fader
Desert
Most likely dominate genes?
Spider
Champagne
Coral Glow
Banana
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Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?
How do you determine which genes go on which alleles? This is very interesting btw.
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Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?
well I figured that, but how do you determine that say the fire and sulfer are on the same allele or the black pastel & cinny are?
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Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?
fire x sulfer make a black eyed lucy, breed it to a normal, you only make fires or sulfers, no black eyed lucy or normals. unlike say if you had a bumblebee and breed it to a normal, then you could make bumblebees, pastel, spider, and normal.
same for black pastel and cinny, they make an 8 ball, 8 ball to a normal only make black pastels and cinnys.
the allele stuff when combo'd is homozygous, its not exactly the same gene, but still on the same allele.
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Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?
The way I describe it is that alleles are different versions of the same gene.
The first allele groups we knew of where a single mutation and the wild type version of the same gene. Like the albino mutation and the normal for albino version of that gene.
But with the blue eyed leucistic complex we have more than one mutant versions of that gene. Any animal only has two copies of a given gene (one from mom and one from dad) so since all those mutations are on that same gene you can't combine 3 or more copies of that group of mutations including the normal version of that gene. So for example a lesser couldn't have one lesser copy, one normal copy, and one hidden/dilute/daddy copy because that would be three. They only have the lesser and normal versions and no room for any more members of that complex.
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I have one of these lists ... It's on my other computer, but I can post it when I get home. I got really dorky and tried to assign a code to them ... 
I made some different assumptions in my list, though. For example, I assumed that "lesser" and "butter" are essentially the same thing. Ditto "mystic" and "phantom." I don't really know much about mochas so I assumed they're different. I also counted the different lines of axanthic as separate, since they appear to be on different loci.
BTW, just a quick clarification: "Allele" is the word for the different versions of a given gene. "Locus" is the word for the place on the chromosome where those different alleles sit (loci is the plural form).
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OhhWatALoser (01-14-2011)
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well this is for a genetic calc im trying to make, actually got it working yesterday as far as calculations go Now i just need to make it user friendly add rules for allele/locus stuff and dominate genes. so i'm keeping lesser and butter separate, since people will type one or the other (I know their the same thing) I do agree with the axanthic lines tho. Ill have to change that, thx.
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Isn't het puma in yb group?
and Lemonback in Fire group?
Cool list btw
Jerry Robertson

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OhhWatALoser (01-14-2011)
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Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?
 Originally Posted by snakesRkewl
Isn't het puma in yb group?
and Lemonback in Fire group?
Cool list btw
I have no idea ill have to look into that lol thx
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