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    What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

    Heres my list, I tired to group them by alleles, I guess i also need to know which are dominate traits also or weird in some way. I thought the green pastel laid on the same alleles as some but i don't remember. I made this list a long time ago, I don't even remember what some of them are lol. I gotta do some more research, but if you guys see anything missing, alleles, dominate, ect. lemme know. I want a perfect list as to the best of our knowledge

    like anyone got a final call on what hypos are compatible? blue or green compatible with normal hypo?

    Cinnamon Pastel
    Black Pastel

    Butter
    Mojave
    Russo Het Leucistic
    Phantom
    Mystic
    Lesser
    Mocha
    Special
    Daddy Gene

    Fire
    Sulfur

    Yellow Belly
    Goblin
    Orange Belly
    Spector
    Whirlwind

    Lavender Albino
    Caramel Albino
    Pastel
    Albino
    Lori
    Axanthic
    Piebald
    Clown
    Desert Ghost
    Genetic Stripe
    Tri-Stripe
    Hypo
    Green Ghost
    Blue Ghost
    Burgundy
    Ultramelanistic
    Toffee
    Patternless
    Black Lace
    Black Head
    Black Opal
    Orange Crush
    Peach
    Congo
    Black Axanthic
    Enchi
    Granite
    Sable
    Vanilla
    Hidden Gene Woma
    Chocolate
    Paint
    Spotnose
    Het Red Axanthic
    Red Stripe
    Disco
    Epic
    Orange Dream
    Black Belly
    Calico
    Garcia
    Het Puma
    Het Highway
    Sentinel
    Lace
    Green Pastel
    Huffman
    Calico
    Whitesmoke
    Pinstripe
    Shatter
    Marble
    Ghi
    Woma
    Cajun
    Candy
    Crider
    Goldfinger
    Lace
    Lemonback
    Leopard
    Napalm
    Puzzle
    Reaper
    Sugar
    Fader
    Desert


    Most likely dominate genes?
    Spider
    Champagne
    Coral Glow
    Banana

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    Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

    How do you determine which genes go on which alleles? This is very interesting btw.

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    Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

    well I figured that, but how do you determine that say the fire and sulfer are on the same allele or the black pastel & cinny are?

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    Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

    fire x sulfer make a black eyed lucy, breed it to a normal, you only make fires or sulfers, no black eyed lucy or normals. unlike say if you had a bumblebee and breed it to a normal, then you could make bumblebees, pastel, spider, and normal.

    same for black pastel and cinny, they make an 8 ball, 8 ball to a normal only make black pastels and cinnys.

    the allele stuff when combo'd is homozygous, its not exactly the same gene, but still on the same allele.

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    Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

    The way I describe it is that alleles are different versions of the same gene.

    The first allele groups we knew of where a single mutation and the wild type version of the same gene. Like the albino mutation and the normal for albino version of that gene.

    But with the blue eyed leucistic complex we have more than one mutant versions of that gene. Any animal only has two copies of a given gene (one from mom and one from dad) so since all those mutations are on that same gene you can't combine 3 or more copies of that group of mutations including the normal version of that gene. So for example a lesser couldn't have one lesser copy, one normal copy, and one hidden/dilute/daddy copy because that would be three. They only have the lesser and normal versions and no room for any more members of that complex.

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    I have one of these lists ... It's on my other computer, but I can post it when I get home. I got really dorky and tried to assign a code to them ...

    I made some different assumptions in my list, though. For example, I assumed that "lesser" and "butter" are essentially the same thing. Ditto "mystic" and "phantom." I don't really know much about mochas so I assumed they're different. I also counted the different lines of axanthic as separate, since they appear to be on different loci.

    BTW, just a quick clarification: "Allele" is the word for the different versions of a given gene. "Locus" is the word for the place on the chromosome where those different alleles sit (loci is the plural form).

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    well this is for a genetic calc im trying to make, actually got it working yesterday as far as calculations go Now i just need to make it user friendly add rules for allele/locus stuff and dominate genes. so i'm keeping lesser and butter separate, since people will type one or the other (I know their the same thing) I do agree with the axanthic lines tho. Ill have to change that, thx.

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    Isn't het puma in yb group?
    and Lemonback in Fire group?


    Cool list btw
    Jerry Robertson

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    Re: What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Isn't het puma in yb group?
    and Lemonback in Fire group?


    Cool list btw

    I have no idea ill have to look into that lol thx

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