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    Woma Wobble? Do you have any womas with wobbles?

    Now, if you had asked me last year, I would have repeated the same thing again--womas, unlike spiders, don't wobble.

    Unfortunately, this year, I've produced at least 2 that do. (And one of them is my remaining male woma-lesser). Now, here's the issue--their non-woma siblings are all perfectly normal. So were they, as new hatchlings--the wobble didn't emerge until they were several months old (even older, for the woma-lesser).

    The fact that it's ONLY womas, and the delay in the signs showing up, now has me wondering whether we've been wrong about them all along. Perhaps the woma mutation is much more closely related to the spider mutation, and has the same drawbacks, just in a more subdued form. The pairing that produced these animals was the same one I did last year, that did not produce any apparent wobblers, and the animals are totally unrelated. (However, last year I didn't have them here as long--I don't know what may have come up with them later).

    So, now I want to know--those who actually breed and work with womas (rather than just have a single animal). Have you seen this? Not the head-instability and head-tilt seen in spiders, but the corkscrewing when exploring, and failure to quickly turn the head upright if you flip them upside down. Before you answer, go check your animals again, and really look for it. It's easy to overlook something subtle if you're not expecting it.

    I'm interested in knowing how many womas you have, their ages, and how many (if any) show these signs even subtly.

    I'd really like to get to the bottom of this, because if I have a bad gene in my womas, I'll have to scrap my breeding projects with them, and they're really exceptional-looking animals. I don't want to do that if it's merely a trait tied to the woma mutation, as it is in spiders. At the moment, the evidence really points to this being specific to womas, because it was a large clutch, and no other animals are affected. The fact I didn't see it last year doesn't mean much, since most of the animals left my hands before they were 3 months old. This year, I held back many animals.

    So, let's see if we can put this to bed. Do womas wobble?
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