Seems to be a very active topic....

[JandDReptiles]

Spider wobble... one thing I was told when I first started breeding was the more genetics expressed with the spider the less wobble it would have... like if you bred a really wobbly spider into a lemon blast, and got the a spinner blast, the wobble wouldn't be so bad.... never really believed it... but, what's your take on it?

[joepythons]

Well not all spiders have the wobble issue.I have a female that does not wobble one bit.

[MarkieJ]

All I know is that after seeing these, I might have to get in on spiders now!

Calider:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1884606,1884606

Calider Bee:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1884604,1884604

[RichsBallPythons]

All spiders wobble to an extent. Having more genetics in the snake wont reduce the wobble at all. Each spider is different as they age

[DZ Reptiles]

Wow that Calider bee is insane!

[Powerspythons]

I think the spider wobble resulted from too much inbreeding of the spider gene. and thats why it is a problem only with the spider gene, so outbreeding the spider gene into other morphs in my opinion should reduce it, however I think that further inbreeding of the spider gene will only exponentially increase the amount of 'wobble' that is expressed. I have not seen the wobble too bad in too many spiders being sold recently tho, which I think is good. My spider doesnt wobble at all, atleast not that I've noticed.

[RichsBallPythons]

I think the spider wobble resulted from too much inbreeding of the spider gene. and thats why it is a problem only with the spider gene, so outbreeding the spider gene into other morphs in my opinion should reduce it, however I think that further inbreeding of the spider gene will only exponentially increase the amount of 'wobble' that is expressed. I have not seen the wobble too bad in too many spiders being sold recently tho, which I think is good. My spider doesnt wobble at all, atleast not that I've noticed.

Not Even Close.

Some that have been looking deeper into the gene say the spider wobble could be result to an equilibrium issue which is nothing to do with inbreeding.

[eracer]

Not Even Close.

Some that have been looking deeper into the gene say the spider wobble could be result to an equilibrium issue which is nothing to do with inbreeding.

Sounds like one opinion defending a point of view that is contrary to a differing opinion supporting an alternate point of view.

Does anyone have facts?

[JLC]

I think the spider wobble resulted from too much inbreeding of the spider gene. and thats why it is a problem only with the spider gene, so outbreeding the spider gene into other morphs in my opinion should reduce it, however I think that further inbreeding of the spider gene will only exponentially increase the amount of 'wobble' that is expressed. I have not seen the wobble too bad in too many spiders being sold recently tho, which I think is good. My spider doesnt wobble at all, atleast not that I've noticed.

Where is all this supposed inbreeding of spiders taking place? Being a dominant morph, no inbreeding was ever needed to create bunches and bunches of them. SOME inbreeding might have been done to try and create the "super spider" but certainly not anywhere near the amount we've seen with recessive morphs that show no such genetic defect.

And if it was possible to "breed out" the wobble, then I would have thought it'd be a lot more rare than it is today.

I do believe it is some sort of neurological tweak that goes hand in hand with whatever gene gives us the spider appearance...and the severity of that "tweak" differs greatly just like the amount of white on their sides differs.

[Powerspythons]

To all your responses...It was just my opinion of what I thought could have been the source, I havnt researched it so I have no facts, but we all know that inbreeding does occur whether it needs to or not...no need to shoot me down and make me feel dumb.