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    Quick genetics question.

    Im soaking in all the genetic and breeding information i can but i have one door i still dont know whats behind its, help me.


    What would happen if you bred a co dom snake to a dom snake? how would the off spring come out? Would the dominate gene take control or would they make the snake look different, i know thats its a simple asnwer but im stuck.

    like the spider and paselt make bumble bee its co dom and dom right? so are they the designer bases?

    If snake breeding is like mixing colours the the dominate genes are like black its just pushes out other colours? and the co's are actual colours. or am i all worng.

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    idk what you said about colors... but

    dom x co-dom
    co-dom x co-dom

    it would basically do the same in any mix up. before somone corrects me,
    im just saying

    im a simple minded person that trys not to think so hard.

    so dom and co-dom its easier to just think, they mix well.

    with just a little less chance of normals.
    0.1 Normal (Sookie)
    1.0 Pastel (Syler)
    0.1 BumbleBee (Scully)
    1.0 Butter (Gimme)
    0.1 Mojave (Saffy)
    1.0 Albino (Leopold)
    1.0 Pinstripe (Triston)
    1.0 Basset/Beagle Mix (Bilbo)
    0.1 Basset Hound (Mimi)
    a bunch of red eared sliders
    and the oldest, male pit/mix Corky. 18yrs strong.

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    ok that helps alot becuase i think way to much lol. So really any snake thats co dom or dom will make make a new moprh when bred with any other co dom or dom its jsut recessive that are hard to mix in? because of the het thing right.

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    Re: Quick genetics question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akren_905 View Post
    ok that helps alot becuase i think way to much lol. So really any snake thats co dom or dom will make make a new moprh when bred with any other co dom or dom its jsut recessive that are hard to mix in? because of the het thing right.
    The odds of making a visual morph in the first generation with a co-dom/dom or whatever mix of the two are much higher (as opposed to producing a normal, or one that looks like only one of the parents).

    With recessives it's a bit longer, because unless both parents carry at least one of the recessive genes then you will get hets and normals that will look the same otherwise and you'll have to go for another generation to prove them.
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    1.0 POG - Victor
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    0.1 Pastel Boa - Astrid
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    0.3.2 Inverts

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    what leexielightning said!

    i'd go with co-dom/dom as first time breeding projects. that way your more likley to get what your hoping for.
    0.1 Normal (Sookie)
    1.0 Pastel (Syler)
    0.1 BumbleBee (Scully)
    1.0 Butter (Gimme)
    0.1 Mojave (Saffy)
    1.0 Albino (Leopold)
    1.0 Pinstripe (Triston)
    1.0 Basset/Beagle Mix (Bilbo)
    0.1 Basset Hound (Mimi)
    a bunch of red eared sliders
    and the oldest, male pit/mix Corky. 18yrs strong.

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    i could be corrected but in the stuff your talking about co dom and dom act the same, same percentages and all that, the basic differant from my understanding is that with the doms there is no "super" form, meaning that its a gene that 1 animal cant get a double dose
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    Re: Quick genetics question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltop View Post
    i could be corrected but in the stuff your talking about co dom and dom act the same, same percentages and all that, the basic differant from my understanding is that with the doms there is no "super" form, meaning that its a gene that 1 animal cant get a double dose
    That's basically it. With a dominant trait, even if the animal gets one gene from each parent and happens to get the mutated trait of both, it will still look the same as if it just had one "copy".
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    1.0 POG - Victor
    0.1 YB - Diana

    0.1 Pastel Boa - Astrid
    1.0 Salmon Boa -

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    0.3.2 Inverts

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    It's important to remember that the terms "dominant" and "co-dominant" refer to the way a mutant gene interacts with the wild-type ("normal") gene, in the way that we use the terms. It doesn't tell you anything about the way two different mutant genes will interact with one another.

    That doesn't mean that one mutant gene couldn't totally "mask" another mutant gene -- for example, I would hazard to guess that most mutations will be totally "masked" by the homozygous lesser mutation (solid white snake). (Don't know for sure, but I'd bet they will.) I think it's actually kind of amazing, in a way, that the various ball python mutations seem to have all the cool interactions that they do ...

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    That what i thought, but that sucks bum no super spiders lol. Buta super form make all spiders if it was super and bred to a normal is what ive read but it was an old book.
    Last edited by Akren_905; 12-15-2010 at 01:31 PM.

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    Re: Quick genetics question.

    In my understanding your old book is correct. A "super" or homozygous Spider would produce all spiders if bred to a normal and would pass its spider trait to all of its offspring regardless of what other morph it's bred to.
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