bumblebee?

[Tidus10]

if i remember correctly a bumblebee is a
spider X pastel =
25% normal
25% pastel
25% spider
25% bee?

now if i did spider X super pastel would theat render a different set of statistics? or just a nicer color bee or would it be a super bee? honeybee?

and what is the stats on a spider X normal? 50/50?

can a spider go with a ghost?

[steveboos]

You got the genetic percentages right. If you bred a Spider to a Super Pastel you can don't get any normals. So it would be 50% Pastels and 50% bee's.

Yes a Spider can go with a Ghost, but keep in mind they are going to be Spider het Ghost offspring and not all lines of Ghost are compatible, so you would need to breed to breed the offspring together or to a compatible line of Ghost.

[Tidus10]

would the bees from the spider X super pastel be brighter than the bees from a spider X normal pastel?

and what if you breed the bee from clutch 1 to parent spider? would it be the same results as a spider X bee? and what would that be just 50/50 again?

[sookieball]

would the bees from the spider X super pastel be brighter than the bees from a spider X normal pastel?

and what if you breed the bee from clutch 1 to parent spider? would it be the same results as a spider X bee? and what would that be just 50/50 again?

super pastel x spider would pop out:


bumble bees
spiders
and pastels.

but yes u may get lucky and get cleaner bee's.
with a reduced pattern spider and nice clean super pastel.

this is just speculation, but i have heard that most people will not breed spider to spider because the spider gene already is a lill defective with the wobble.
its said that its an offspring killer to breed spiderxspider.
i read that along time ago on this forum so if im wrong im sure someone will chime in.

[steveboos]

super pastel x spider would pop out:


bumble bees
spiders
and pastels.

but yes u may get lucky and get cleaner bee's.
with a reduced pattern spider and nice clean super pastel.

this is just speculation, but i have heard that most people will not breed spider to spider because the spider gene already is a lill defective with the wobble.
its said that its an offspring killer to breed spiderxspider.
i read that along time ago on this forum so if im wrong im sure someone will chime in.

It hasn't been proven 100% that spider x spider kills all the offspring, but when people did do it, it never was sucessful, so no one even tries the pairing as it is a big waste of time.

If you breed the parent spider back to a bee, you might get all dead in the egg babies or slugs. I wouldn't do that pairing, but you can try.

The Bee's would not be any brighter, the only way you can make a brighter bee is by using a Lemon Pastel.

[JLC]

super pastel x spider would pop out:


bumble bees
spiders
and pastels.

Nope...won't get any spiders with a super pastel x spider. All the babies would inherit one pastel gene...and about half of them would also get a spider gene to make the bees.

So pastels and bees are the only babies you'd hatch with that combo.

[JLC]

The Bee's would not be any brighter, the only way you can make a brighter bee is by using a Lemon Pastel.

I don't think it necessarily has to be a "lemon" pastel to get bright bees...any high quality pastel can throw high quality bees.

I DO agree that just because one parent is a "super" doesn't mean the quality of the babies will necessarily be any higher. That would be entirely (or at least mostly! LOL) dependent on the quality of the genes that made up the super to begin with.

[sookieball]

thanks judy and steve.

yeah since i had read the spider Xing i have never heard anyone trying it again.
no posts, or nothing.

[sookieball]

I don't think it necessarily has to be a "lemon" pastel to get bright bees...any high quality pastel can throw high quality bees.

I DO agree that just because one parent is a "super" doesn't mean the quality of the babies will necessarily be any higher. That would be entirely (or at least mostly! LOL) dependent on the quality of the genes that made up the super to begin with.

agreed.

but you know enchixspider pop out some killer clean gorgeous ones!
i think they are called stinger bee's. but im sure im wrong. a be would have to have pastel so it'd be an enchi bumble bee right<stinger bee? enchi and fire both clean up.

[JLC]

... a be would have to have pastel so it'd be an enchi bumble bee right<stinger bee? enchi and fire both clean up.

In my own internal logic, I always figured that if a combo is called "anything-bee" then it SHOULD have both pastel and spider, plus whatever else is in there that causes a different name. However, that is not the case. A "lesser-bee" is a spider x lesser. A "queen bee" is a spider-pastel-lesser.

I guess a stinger-bee is simply an enchi x a spider...but frankly, my rickety old memory has a hard time keeping up with all the different combo names. Personally, I prefer to stick with remembering the names of the base morphs...and then calling the combos by what they are. (ie: spider/pastel/lesser) But that's just me.