To dink, or not to dink?

[loonunit]

This is a male I picked up as an experiment. He's 66% poss het pied, but that's not what caught my interest... the breeder and I have discussed him at length, and looking at his dam and siblings, it's pretty clear that his "look" is genetic. What's not clear is if it actually DOES anything interesting...

What do you guys think? Is he worth a dinker project? If he was yours, what would you do with him, after proving him genetic?









(sorry!--he was pretty squirmy this morning.)

[joe23]

why is it pretty clear that his look is genetic?


what u do after u prove something a morph?- breed him to other morphs... breed him to another one of that morph and see if theres a superform.

but honestly- it does take years to prove something genetic and to tell how he passes his trait on (rez., dom or co dom). now u have an oddball- not a genetic morph!


u have to do alot of breedings before calling him genetic. just from the look u cant say hes genetic (or better said- its a morph)

[seeya205]

I would get his sister or a 100% het pied female to breed him to! Most dinkers don't prove out! At least you will have a chance at pieds!

[loonunit]

why is it pretty clear that his look is genetic?

u have to do alot of breedings before calling him genetic. just from the look u cant say hes genetic (or better said- its a morph)

Because his dam has the same look, as do at least half a dozen other snakes who are his clutchmates and siblings and "cousins".

But even if that weren't the case... if you saw this guy and he weren't poss het pied and didn't have the markers... would you take a second look at him and think about dinker projects? Or just say "nice reduced normal" and move on?

[lilbit]

just looks like a nice normal i dont see anything tbh

[rabernet]

Honestly? I don't see much that's really unique about his looks. Lots of normals throw other normals that look like the sire or dam - it doesn't necessarily make them anything other than a normal (or a het).

However, he does look a lot like het pieds I've seen with the side patterns that bleed up from the sides.

[Shadera]

Because his dam has the same look, as do at least half a dozen other snakes who are his clutchmates and siblings and "cousins".

But even if that weren't the case... if you saw this guy and he weren't poss het pied and didn't have the markers... would you take a second look at him and think about dinker projects? Or just say "nice reduced normal" and move on?

The latter. He's a really nice little reduced pattern and perhaps if he were female I'd have bought just because I like reduced girls, but as far as a dinker male I'd pass.

No reason you can't pair him with a female het and see if you can't prove him out for pied, though.

[seeya205]

I see just a normal! Most snakes will look like one of the parents when it comes to pattern! Just like humans, you look like mom or dad or a little of both!

[merdcme]

However, he does look a lot like het pieds I've seen with the side patterns that bleed up from the sides.

i produced some het pieds last year with the exact same type of markings. i'd be willing to bet(not much) that he is het pied. but that would be all i think he is. just het pied. certainly no reason IMO to call him a dinker. you already know he's more than likely het pied. thats probably all you'd be able to prove outta him. get you a 100% het pied girl and see what happens. good luck

[joe23]

i say the same as anyone before. thats why i asked the question. to call something genetic need much work and often years.

hes a nice normal- maybe het pied. but nothing i would call a dinker- or even genetic...