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    White Diamonds and other leucies...

    What genetic relevance do the 'white snakes' play in developing other morphs? I would think with my limited understanding of Ball Python morphs that they would basically be the 'end of the line' in production? I can see where the het Russo could add to different mutations but are the leucies just that...used to produce more leucies? How would/could they add to other mutations?

    The reason I ask is that I only dabble in Ball Python Mutations, I primarily work with Morelia sp... I recieved a White Diamond male in trade and not sure if he's worth keeping or selling....

    Any thoughts on this?

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    Re: White Diamonds and other leucies...

    Hi,

    I'm not sure there has been enough done to completely answer your question.

    But the white diamond has made at least two other combinations I know of that were not simply Blue eyed lucies.

    Check out this page and look at the pinto pied (pied het russo ) and the polar ball ( Albino white diamond ).

    It also would give you a patterned "super" when bred to a phantom.

    I also thought it did something funky with the eye colour in a super fire super het russo combo ( changed it to a lighter black iirc ) but cannot find where I saw the info again to double check.

    So, if I were to find myself in possession of such a beauty, I would try and breed him to female pieds to breed one of the male het russo het pied offspring back to the pied, female albinos for future double hets, Phantoms ( and mystics if you have them ) for lookers in the first generation and possibly fires for double codoms to shoot for the double leucistic in the future.

    And that is just shooting for combo's that have already been done.

    But mainly the advantage of the super is simply all the offspring will be het russos so mixing it into other combo's is a lot simpler and more reliable.

    So have a look around at all the combo's that have het russo in them and see if any of them catch your eye.


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    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

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    Re: White Diamonds and other leucies...

    Thanks Derek,
    Thats exactly the information I was looking for.

    Very much appreciated!

    Cheers!
    Terry Phillip
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    That Polar Ball is pretty cool looking!

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