Pics of new bloods! 1.1ablino, 1. sum blood / question.

[English-bulldog]

Hi everyone.

I just picked up 3 bloods, 2albinos, 1 sum blood.

I went to the dollar store and purchased 3 bowls, 3 tupperware(for hide/humidbox).

They are all around 22"

Question, what should I do differently?

I have cypress on the way, to replace the cotton rags I have right now in the humid/hidebox (this will be wet).

I will use misted cypress substrate bedding on the outside of the hidebox.

100watt heat emitter for the 20long, 60watt heat emitter for the 10gallons. (will this work?)

As of now they are on moist paper towels.

Pics.
male sum
female albino
male albino

eating
male albino
female albino
male sum

new(er) cage setup. (after they finished their jumbo mouse)
Male albino
Female albino
male sum (20long)


Thanks.

please comment.

[Alexandra V]

I'd say that if your paper towels are damp, you should ditch the heat emitters and go for a uth, because the dampness will get to them. You don't want scale rot or an RI. Dry substrate is best.

I'd recommend moss in the humid hide instead of cypress, and it should never be wet. You could also try putting a damp sponge in the humid hide. Remember, if you pick up the moss/sponge there should be no water that will drip from it. It should be damp but not wet.

When you get the cypress in the rest of the enclosure (or any loose substrate for that matter), I highly suggest that you be careful when feeding them (if you feed in the tank) because you don't want them to ingest any of the substrate.

Also, I'd say that maybe you should put a normal hide or two in there as well, because then that way if they want to be dry but hidden they can do that. Otherwise they'll be forced to be in a humid environment just to feel safe. (Scale rot and RI's = really bad)

They're really gorgeous. Congrats

[English-bulldog]

Thanks Lexxie.

Are there any good online sites to buy from? (supplies)

[English-bulldog]

I'd say that if your paper towels are damp, you should ditch the heat emitters and go for a uth, because the dampness will get to them. You don't want scale rot or an RI. Dry substrate is best.

I'd recommend moss in the humid hide instead of cypress, and it should never be wet. You could also try putting a damp sponge in the humid hide. Remember, if you pick up the moss/sponge there should be no water that will drip from it. It should be damp but not wet.

When you get the cypress in the rest of the enclosure (or any loose substrate for that matter), I highly suggest that you be careful when feeding them (if you feed in the tank) because you don't want them to ingest any of the substrate.

Also, I'd say that maybe you should put a normal hide or two in there as well, because then that way if they want to be dry but hidden they can do that. Otherwise they'll be forced to be in a humid environment just to feel safe. (Scale rot and RI's = really bad)

They're really gorgeous. Congrats

Like heat take?

or just a heat pad?

I was talking with some guy, he said that thay burn snakes.

[deadsmiley]

a uth wont burn your snake if you keep it plugged in through a rheostat or (preffered device) a thermostat. ambient air temps are good to keep around 80 but your snake has to be able to absorb heat through its belly to digest right. do not use a heat pad for humans, do not use a heat rock. find something designed to be an under tank heater for an animal. do not place the heat source inside the enclosure, under tank heater, not in the tank heater lol.

[English-bulldog]

a uth wont burn your snake if you keep it plugged in through a rheostat or (preffered device) a thermostat. ambient air temps are good to keep around 80 but your snake has to be able to absorb heat through its belly to digest right. do not use a heat pad for humans, do not use a heat rock. find something designed to be an under tank heater for an animal. do not place the heat source inside the enclosure, under tank heater, not in the tank heater lol.

Thanks.

What would you recommend? (brand of heater.)

and I take it that you are talking about this.
http://www.petmountain.com/product/r...-rheostat.html

[deadsmiley]

yes sir. that would be the cheap method, you can actualy buy a thermostat witch is much more preffered off of http://www.bigappleherp.com/BAH-1000-Thermostat for only 40 bucks +shipping. doesnt get much cheaper and the heat source i use is http://www.bigappleherp.com/Flex-Watt-Heat-Tape i use the 11 inch wide tape on just about any enclosure. i usualy order through reptilebasics.com but if your going to buy that thermostat then you might as well order heat tape from there too to save on shipping. if you not concerned about money then you should invest in a proportional thermostat from here http://www.helixcontrols.com/DBS1000.htm witch is considered to be the best from what i read. difference is the helix will lower the amount of electricity going into the heat source to maintain a constant heat supply at the temperature you choose instead of the cheaper thermostats turning on and off completely to maintain a certain temp within a 2-3 degree variance and as long as you have the same heat source on each enclosure, one thermostat will control them all .

when and if you buy the thermostat, what i do is place the probe inside the enclosure, underneath the substrate and set it to 93 degrees but i also use paper towel, not sure if you can do that with a damp substrate like cypress. if not then attach it directly to the heat source. you might have to mess with it for a few days like i did in order to get the right temps through your substrate if you attach it directly to the heat source.

[English-bulldog]

What do you think of this?

Ranco.
http://www.reptilebasics.com/ranco-e...pre-wired.html


Or..

Hydrofarm.
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MTPR...1529683&sr=1-7

Thanks for all that helpful info.

[deadsmiley]

well im not an expert, ive only owned one but ive read many reviews and ranco is a pretty good brand, non-proportional but pretty reliable and accurate. the hydrofarm i have never even heard of so i dont really know but when i do alot of research like i do and never come across even the brand name, i avoid it. but then again, i avoided vizio like it was a plague when first shopping for tv's a few years back..... and now i own a pretty damn nice vizio so its all personal opinion. look around and read reviews. my opinion is go for the helix, many people i know own them and i have only heard good things and with nice snakes like yours, id buy the best.

[Alexandra V]

I've heard of Ranco before, and I'm told that they're decent. Personally I prefer Herpstat thermostats. This is the one I use: http://www.spyderrobotics.com/products/herpstat.html

About the ZooMed Rheostats and Thermostats... I've never actually used one myself, but I've been told by many people who have used them that they aren't precise, and that they are really not worth the money. I would spend the extra money to get a better quality one. As was mentioned above, you can use them for multiple heating devices, just make sure you monitor them with a thermometer that has a probe, etc.

As long as you make sure that the snake can't actually come into contact with the glass where you have your heater stuck on, and you control the temperature, it should be alright.