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    Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Title is the question

    I've never heard of that?
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    Re: Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Hi,

    Yes, if you cross any of the snakes in the blue eyed complex you get varying degrees of Blue-eyed leucistic.

    There are quite a few of them in the complex.


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    Yes, butters and lessers are the exact same snake. Just different names.
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    Re: Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Quote Originally Posted by J.Vandegrift View Post
    Yes, butters and lessers are the exact same snake. Just different names.
    so they do make BELS?

    i trust dr. del when he says they do so i thank god i just got a new buttter and have plans for a BEL
    0.1 Normal (Sookie)
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    1.0 Butter (Gimme)
    0.1 Mojave (Saffy)
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    1.0 Basset/Beagle Mix (Bilbo)
    0.1 Basset Hound (Mimi)
    a bunch of red eared sliders
    and the oldest, male pit/mix Corky. 18yrs strong.

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    Now though this is true that they make bels, but if you do cross Butter to Lesser and was looking sell the babies; 1) How could you tell the difference? 2) Wouldn't it look bad on the breeder by mixing the Butter and Lesser lines?

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    Re: Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Quote Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Now though this is true that they make bels, but if you do cross Butter to Lesser and was looking sell the babies; 1) How could you tell the difference? 2) Wouldn't it look bad on the breeder by mixing the Butter and Lesser lines?
    You'd have to believe that they are different morphs and that you could tell the difference between the two.

    Just ask yourself, if you bought a "so called" Lesser/Butter lucy and bred it to a normal could you tell the difference in the babies?
    If not I'd say they be the same thing.
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    Re: Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Quote Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Now though this is true that they make bels, but if you do cross Butter to Lesser and was looking sell the babies; 1) How could you tell the difference? 2) Wouldn't it look bad on the breeder by mixing the Butter and Lesser lines?
    You couldn't tell the babies apart because lesser and butter are the same allele. I have a hard time thinking people would see outbreeding two lines of the same mutation as a bad thing. You could just call any heterozygous offspring butter/lesser. I've seen it done before.
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    Re: Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Lawson View Post
    You couldn't tell the babies apart because lesser and butter are the same allele. I have a hard time thinking people would see outbreeding two lines of the same mutation as a bad thing. You could just call any heterozygous offspring butter/lesser. I've seen it done before.
    Thanks guys. I have just passed up many Butter males because I want to have it paired with my Lesser girl and didn't want to have the bad rep of mixing lines.

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    Re: Butter x lesser produces BEL?

    Quote Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Thanks guys. I have just passed up many Butter males because I want to have it paired with my Lesser girl and didn't want to have the bad rep of mixing lines.
    bad rep? I would rather having something with mixed bloodlines... I think most of us would lol.

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