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    So how did this happen?

    Breeding was my G-Stripe male to a CBB Normal female. Did the same pairing last year resulting in 5 good eggs: 4.1 Normal Hets.
    Same pair again produced 5 eggs this year, but 3 went bad early on. The remaining 2 looked fine until 5 days ago when 1 completely collapsed. The one good remaining egg pipped today (normal Het) so I cut the collapsed egg and found this:






    Obviously a perfect G-Stripe fully formed dead in the egg. Besides being bummed at losing what looked like a very nice animal, how did I get a Homozygous G-Stripe?
    I'ver heard of Parthenogenisis, but wouldn't that only happen if the FEMALE was the Homozygous Morph?
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    Re: So how did this happen?

    They should have all been hets! I guess you got lucky! Well you would be lucky if it survived!

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    Re: So how did this happen?

    wow sucxh a beauty too. so sorry that happened.

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    Re: So how did this happen?

    If the baby didn't receive 100% of the alleles of the normal then the stripe could be expressed. I am guessing some pretty major genetic defects in the way of missing chromosomes and such.

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    Re: So how did this happen?

    Where did you get your female from? The only explanation I can think of is she is actually a het and you missed the odds last year.

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    Re: So how did this happen?

    Pretty interesting. I had a buddy who bred 2 albinos together this year and got 4 albinos and 2 het's out of it? Not sure how that should happen either out of albino to albino breeding. To bad it died. Oh well now your het's held back from last year will hopefully be up to weight for this year.

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    Re: So how did this happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by JD'S Exotics View Post
    Pretty interesting. I had a buddy who bred 2 albinos together this year and got 4 albinos and 2 het's out of it? Not sure how that should happen either out of albino to albino breeding. To bad it died. Oh well now your het's held back from last year will hopefully be up to weight for this year.
    It is possible that one of the albino was actually a paradox, but instead of mixed colors it got the absorbed twins "Parts".

    Genetic stripes are weird, Ralph Davis had the same thing happen to him a few years ago, a Dead premature G-stripe looking snake in the egg from a pair that should not have dont that! So, I would not say that the female is a het, yet at least.
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    Re: So how did this happen?

    Aww to bad it died
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    Re: So how did this happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    It is possible that one of the albino was actually a paradox, but instead of mixed colors it got the absorbed twins "Parts".

    Genetic stripes are weird, Ralph Davis had the same thing happen to him a few years ago, a Dead premature G-stripe looking snake in the egg from a pair that should not have dont that! So, I would not say that the female is a het, yet at least.
    I am definitely NOT calling her a Het. That's what leaves me so puzzled. She was from a breeder in a lot of 20 normal CBB females (all supposed to be codom siblings-which makes sense) The price on G-Stripes and Hets was still pretty high 4 years ago so I con't believe anyone would package up a prized Het female in a group of "normal" females.

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    Re: So how did this happen?

    She could be an unknown het, the only way to prove that, though, would be to produce viable offspring that are g-stripes from her.

    However I would assume that either the genes were read incorrectly due to some defect in the RNA polymerase causing reading to be done incorrectly or perhaps an error with the dna polymerase in the female causing certain genes to not be copied correctly.

    Or perhaps g-stripe is just a strange trait that occasionally is expressed dominantly and leads to fatality.
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