Genetics question Albino x "Normal"

[jfreels]

I'm guessing if I breed my Peruvian to an Albino, I'd get all het albinos. Is that correct?

If so, what then? If I'd want albinos then I'd have to breed the het back to the albino or a different albino?

Sorry to even ask this, I'm just trying to figure this stuff out. I would have thought you could breed an albino to a normal and get at least one albino. But from different source online, I'm gathering that it's not a possibility.

[Beardedragon]

I'm guessing if I breed my Peruvian to an Albino, I'd get all het albinos. Is that correct?

If so, what then? If I'd want albinos then I'd have to breed the het back to the albino or a different albino?

Sorry to even ask this, I'm just trying to figure this stuff out. I would have thought you could breed an albino to a normal and get at least one albino. But from different source online, I'm gathering that it's not a possibility.

Albino is a Recessive trait, unless the Normal is het for albino, you will only get het albinos, and no visuals.

I think that you want to outcross albinos in albinos, due to birth defects from so much inbreeding ( I believe this is why if you breed even albino to albino, you can get albinos with no eyes) So id breed the offspring to a different albino. someone correct me if this last part is wrong.

[Big Gunns]

What Matt said is basically correct, however no matter how much you "outcross" albinos you'll still get animals with one or no eyes. It's in the gene to stay it seems.

BG always says. If you haven't produced a one eye albino, you haven't produced many albinos.

[Beardedragon]

What Matt said is basically correct, however no matter how much you "outcross" albinos you'll still get animals with one or no eyes. It's in the gene to stay it seems.

BG always says. If you haven't produced a one eye albino, you haven't produced many albinos.

But, is it more likely to happen in known related albinos, or does it not matter?

Sorry to Hijack this thread a little bit with my always thought up questions

[Big Gunns]

But, is it more likely to happen in known related albinos, or does it not matter?

Sorry to Hijack this thread a little bit with my always thought up questions

In Big Gunns experience(and he has a ton...along with what he knows form other large breeders) , it does not matter what you do you'll still get them. It seems that they're all het for one or no eyes no matter how unrelated they are. You can also get a perfect litter one year, and a lousy one eye one the next with the exact same parents.

[JimiSnakes]

It's always the left eye that is lost. It's from the tear duct not working right and getting clogged then infected all before the first shed. They lose the eye because of it. I've never heard of them actually being born without the eye, but it's lost before the first shed...or during the first shed.

[jfreels]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm looking to get an albino male and a het albino. I found a pretty good deal. Just not sure if I want to pull the trigger yet. Especially hearing about their eyes and such. I may just move forward with the ball python project I had initially set out to do.

The deal I was looking at were a pair, a 08 1.0 Kahl line albino and an 08 0.1 het albino. Seller wants less than $500 shipped for the pair. Any thoughts?

[Big Gunns]

It's always the left eye that is lost. It's from the tear duct not working right and getting clogged then infected all before the first shed. They lose the eye because of it. I've never heard of them actually being born without the eye, but it's lost before the first shed...or during the first shed.

Yep...it is always the left eye or both. This proves without a doubt that it is genetic.

[JimiSnakes]

Yep...it is always the left eye or both. This proves without a doubt that it is genetic.

To be honest, I've never heard of both eyes being missing. It's always the left eye. This comes from me and some of the biggest boa breeders in the country. I could be wrong, but usually I'm not. I do agree it is genetic, but not genetic like most people think..ie- recessive or dominant. It's just a genetic fluke from the albino gene itself. Most think it's only kahl strain, but it's just because there hasn't been as many sharp breedings as there has been kahl. Truth be told, it happens in both strains. You can breed a one eye albino to a one eye albino and get all healthy "two-eyed" albinos but breed a pair of hets that are completely unrelated from perfect "two-eyed" grandparents together and get one eyed albinos. It's a weird fluke.